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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Nov 29, 2016.

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  1. Salty

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    Actually, I would encourage to register with a major party - and then get involved with your local county or City parties. AS an active member - and/or officer - than you could help shape the platform for your local party.

    Here in NY State, I am on the county committee - and with the fusion ballot, we have an understanding with the Republican party.
     
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    Oops, Truman got less than 50 percent of the popular vote in 1948 and 303 electoral votes, yet:


    Los Angeles Times, Nov. 4, 1948:
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    Alistair Cooke in the Manchester Guardian, Jan 7, 1954:


    Pulitzer Prize winning historian David Levering Lewis, "Two Responses to American Exceptionalism" (2002):


    March 2016 CNN documentary "Race for the White House":
     
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    Well good for the LA Times. I said MY criteria not the LA Times. Although it brought me a good laugh to see the main stream media being used as a source to try to help Trump out. I took the OP as asking for personal thoughts, not what the LA times thought in 1948. So if you want to say he won in a Landslide based on the LA Times that is your prerogative. It just shows we have a different definition of a landslide. one based on mainstream media and one based on hard numbers :)

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    I have concluded that claiming someone hates Trump is the equlivemt of you don't like Obama policy because you are racist, in other words what they say when they have lost the argument. Just one more example of how Trump is the inverse of Obama.

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    Yes, these people are wrong to call it a landslide. Truman got less than 50% of the popular vote.

    Furthermore, in 1948 there were 6 less electoral votes than now because Alaska and Hawaii were not states. Also, 39 electoral votes went to Strom Thurmond who was running as a third party candidate. Truman got 57.0% of the electoral votes. He's in 45th place, one spot ahead of Trump. Not a landslide.
     
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    "Landslide" is a subjective concept. If my guy wins, it is a landslide. If your guy gets 90%, it is closely-run.

    The idea that Trump won by a landslide is self-delusional spin.
     
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    That s a subjective concept.
     
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    Hilliary only had the big lead in Cal prop up her popular vote though!
     
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    Yes I realized that, which is why we have the EC which I'm a huge fan of. Still doesn't change the fact that he did not break 50% (neither did Hillary BTW) of the popular vote nor does his EC win put him anywhere near landslide territory as it is in the bottom quarter of wins when compared to all presidential elections.

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    Why it's important to Trumpies that the election is called a landslide.

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    Sounds like Bannon is trying to play Francis Urquhart by giving them a bit of "stick".

     
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    More to the point: Why it's important to [HASHTAG]#NeverTrumpies[/HASHTAG] that the election is not called a landslide?

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    Huh? Please elaborate.
     
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    What more is there to say? The statement stands on its own.
     
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    No, because if Trumpies keep claiming it was a landslide they then believe they have a license to browbeat others. Like you keep doing.
     
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    Wrong, yet again.

    Hint: How many electoral votes does Hawaii now cast?
     
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    Hawaii 4. Alaska 3. He was off by 1, so crucify him. :rolleyes:
     
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    and in 1956 Alaska and Hawaii cast a total of ZERO Electoral votes
     
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    I just assumed Hawaii's population was small enough so they only had three electoral votes. I learned something new today. Thank you.

    Upon further review, I see that Hawaii originally had three electoral votes, but since 1964 they have had four.

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    Truman was up 4.5 percentage points in the popular vote over Dewey (having lost about 4.5 percent to the Dixiecrats and Henry Wallace, votes that ordinarily would have gone to the Democrats).

    The Democrats picked up 75 seats in the House of Representatives and six seats in the Senate to retake control of both houses.

    Looks like something of a landslide, after all.
     
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