Trump's Landslide?

[Salty]

My main concern is the pro-life issue.
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...Agreed, the GOP is loaded with RINO's and Neo-cons.
Personally I am an independent (small "i") "No preference" in the State of WA.

Actually, I would encourage to register with a major party - and then get involved with your local county or City parties. AS an active member - and/or officer - than you could help shape the platform for your local party.

Here in NY State, I am on the county committee - and with the fusion ballot, we have an understanding with the Republican party.

 

[Jerome]

My primary critera for a landslide victory would have to be winning over 50% of the popular vote....the Electoral college I think you need to hit at least 400

Oops, Truman got less than 50 percent of the popular vote in 1948 and 303 electoral votes, yet:


Los Angeles Times, Nov. 4, 1948:

the Truman landslide

Alistair Cooke in the Manchester Guardian, Jan 7, 1954:

the Truman landslide

Pulitzer Prize winning historian David Levering Lewis, "Two Responses to American Exceptionalism" (2002):

in the aftermath of Truman's 1948 landslide victory

March 2016 CNN documentary "Race for the White House":

the American people have given Truman a landslide victory

 

[blessedwife318]

Oops, Truman got less than 50 percent of the popular vote in 1948 and 303 electoral votes, yet:


Los Angeles Times, Nov. 4, 1948:

Alistair Cooke in the Manchester Guardian, Jan 7, 1954:

Pulitzer Prize winning historian David Levering Lewis, "Two Responses to American Exceptionalism" (2002):



March 2016 CNN documentary "Race for the White House":

Well good for the LA Times. I said MY criteria not the LA Times. Although it brought me a good laugh to see the main stream media being used as a source to try to help Trump out. I took the OP as asking for personal thoughts, not what the LA times thought in 1948. So if you want to say he won in a Landslide based on the LA Times that is your prerogative. It just shows we have a different definition of a landslide. one based on mainstream media and one based on hard numbers

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[blessedwife318]

Translation: I voted for Castle so I would have deniability if Trump turns out to be a rogue. Hedging your bets. I don't think anybody believes you aren't a Trump supporter.

I have concluded that claiming someone hates Trump is the equlivemt of you don't like Obama policy because you are racist, in other words what they say when they have lost the argument. Just one more example of how Trump is the inverse of Obama.

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[InTheLight]

Oops, Truman got less than 50 percent of the popular vote in 1948 and 303 electoral votes, yet:


Los Angeles Times, Nov. 4, 1948:

Alistair Cooke in the Manchester Guardian, Jan 7, 1954:

Yes, these people are wrong to call it a landslide. Truman got less than 50% of the popular vote.

Furthermore, in 1948 there were 6 less electoral votes than now because Alaska and Hawaii were not states. Also, 39 electoral votes went to Strom Thurmond who was running as a third party candidate. Truman got 57.0% of the electoral votes. He's in 45th place, one spot ahead of Trump. Not a landslide.

 

[Rolfe]

"Landslide" is a subjective concept. If my guy wins, it is a landslide. If your guy gets 90%, it is closely-run.

The idea that Trump won by a landslide is self-delusional spin.

 

[Benjamin]

The idea that Trump won by a landslide is self-delusional spin.

That s a subjective concept.

 

[Yeshua1]

No he did not. We have not had a president win by a landslide since Bush in 88 with 426 electoral votes and 53.4% of the the popular vote.
My primary critera for a landslide victory would have to be winning over 50% of the popular vote. Trump only got 46.3% of the popular vote, a plurality not a majority. Also it helps if you actually did win in the popular vote not just the electoral vote. And if you are going to look at the Electoral college I think you need to hit at least 400 in the electoral vote which he did not do either.

Hilliary only had the big lead in Cal prop up her popular vote though!

 

[blessedwife318]

Hilliary only had the big lead in Cal prop up her popular vote though!

Yes I realized that, which is why we have the EC which I'm a huge fan of. Still doesn't change the fact that he did not break 50% (neither did Hillary BTW) of the popular vote nor does his EC win put him anywhere near landslide territory as it is in the bottom quarter of wins when compared to all presidential elections.

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[InTheLight]

Why it's important to Trumpies that the election is called a landslide.

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[Rolfe]

Why it's important to Trumpies that the election is called a landslide.

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Sounds like Bannon is trying to play Francis Urquhart by giving them a bit of "stick".

 

[Benjamin]

More to the point: Why it's important to [HASHTAG]#NeverTrumpies[/HASHTAG] that the election is not called a landslide?

 

[Jerome]

Furthermore, in 1948 there were 6 less electoral votes than now because Alaska and Hawaii were not states.

Huh? Please elaborate.

 

[InTheLight]

Huh? Please elaborate.

What more is there to say? The statement stands on its own.

 

[InTheLight]

More to the point: Why it's important to [HASHTAG]#NeverTrumpies[/HASHTAG] that the election is not called a landslide?

No, because if Trumpies keep claiming it was a landslide they then believe they have a license to browbeat others. Like you keep doing.

 

[Jerome]

Furthermore, in 1948 there were 6 less electoral votes than now because Alaska and Hawaii were not states.

Huh? Please elaborate.

What more is there to say? The statement stands on its own.

Wrong, yet again.

Hint: How many electoral votes does Hawaii now cast?

 

[TCassidy]

How many electoral votes does Hawaii now cast?

Hawaii 4. Alaska 3. He was off by 1, so crucify him.

 

[Salty]

Hint: How many electoral votes does Hawaii now cast?

and in 1956 Alaska and Hawaii cast a total of ZERO Electoral votes

 

[InTheLight]

Hawaii 4. Alaska 3. He was off by 1, so crucify him.

I just assumed Hawaii's population was small enough so they only had three electoral votes. I learned something new today. Thank you.

Upon further review, I see that Hawaii originally had three electoral votes, but since 1964 they have had four.

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[rsr]

Oops, Truman got less than 50 percent of the popular vote in 1948 and 303 electoral votes, yet:

Truman was up 4.5 percentage points in the popular vote over Dewey (having lost about 4.5 percent to the Dixiecrats and Henry Wallace, votes that ordinarily would have gone to the Democrats).

The Democrats picked up 75 seats in the House of Representatives and six seats in the Senate to retake control of both houses.

Looks like something of a landslide, after all.