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Featured The Catholic Church Is Not Entirely False And Does Worship The Biblical And Historical Jesus As God

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by John Yurich, Apr 24, 2017.

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  1. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
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    We are into "Son" worship, yes the Son of God, or God Incarnated here on earth. The Apostles themselves held true to this, as did the whole Universal (Catholic) Christian Church as it evolved in the early centuries. This denial of Jesus's Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist came about over 1400 years later by a person named Huldrych Zwingli, a dissenter of the first Christian dissenters. You are the one who has strayed badly into a terrible falsehood that will have bad consequences for your immortal soul.
     
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    The blind can't see because they refuse to.

    The Word is indeed Torah (Where else are His words found?)

    Job_22:22 Please accept the Torah from His mouth, and lay up His words in your heart.

    Isa_8:20 To the Torah and to the witness! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because they have no light.
     
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    Sorry, we believe in the complete teachings of Christianity. We do not discard one over the other. We believe in having faith AND good works, and in a belief in the truth of the Holy Sacraments that impart graces that help us live holy and pleasing lives for God.
     
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    Pray to Mary for me. 3 rosaries
     
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    This si true. This would be why some would look at logos and see Torah.


    Try reading the Word you next post:


    Job is not referring to the Written Word, but to that directly spoken of by God.

    There is a simple principle taught in Scripture, Jason, and that is that God writes His Law on the hearts of men, and that He reveals Himself to all men...

    ...even Gentiles that do not have the Torah.



    Gosh, someone who seeks to condemn others...because they won't join their cult.

    That's a new one around here...


    God bless.
     
  6. John Yurich

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    The Apostles and Nicene Creeds state "We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God". Does that sound like another Jesus to you? Luther did not even believe that the Catholic Church worships another Jesus.
     
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    Sometimes we need it all laid out like this...thanks for keeping it real.
     
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    Great point, as they see salvation is by Grace, but that death of jesus alone not enough, as we still need to co operate with Him to save us!
     
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    They have the right jesus, but the wrong Gospel!
     
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    Sorry my friend, you're simply wrong, it's re-crucifying Christ. This is why the Church teaches bread turns into real bodily flesh, and wine miraculously into real human blood. Jesus NEVER meant for us to LITERALLY EAT HIS BODY, what did the disciples, can't even go there so gross, "EATING", and "DRINKING" refer to faith, and to eat and drink, so to speak, both in.

     
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    Well I am a Catholic who is a Born Again Bible believing Christian and I attend Mass every Saturday Vigil Mass. Of course I reject and repudiate all the unscriptural doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass and I only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass. I receive the bread and the cup of wine but I do not state "Amen" before receiving the bread and the cup of wine as that would be acknowledging the doctrine of transubstantiation. When I receive the bread and the cup of wine I imagine it to be the way the Lutheran Church teaches about Holy Communion. I also attend a small local Baptist Church on Sunday mornings where I go to Adult Sunday School before worship, where I fellowship with individuals before worship, where I will be Baptized via immersion on 21 May and where I am involved in various church activities like going to soup lunches and other meals after worship.
     
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    The Council of Trent taught that we are saved by grace. They also taught that sacraments are the way grace is freely given. Trent taught what the Bible teaches that no one is justified by faith 'alone".
    Only the saved go to Purgatory where final sanctification takes place. Sanctification is a work of God not human works apart from God.
     
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    You have a very strange idea of what the Catholic Church teaches. There are too many errors in your post to even address them.
     
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    Yeah I recommend you just leave the Roman Church, get into a solid Protestant Church, PLEASE
     
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    Anyways best!
     
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    If what you say is true, you are not a Catholic but a heretic. You can't validly go to Mass with your kinds of beliefs.
     
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    Give me ONE, I'm a expert in Roman Theology. So easy to make a broad statement like that, let's see if you can back it up.
     
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    Eph. 2: 28 says that grace is the gift OF God. .....not FROM God but OF God. 1 Peter 1:4 calls grace a partaking of the Divine nature. Paul calls grace the "love of God that has been poured into our hearts" Romans 5:5
    Grace actually makes us righteous. Romans 5:19
    Simply put grace is God's Divine assistance that is infused into our soul that makes us go from a child of Adam to a child of God. We are regenerated by grace which causes us to conform our will to His will so that we can keep His commandments, love God and neighbor. But we can fall from grace and be cut off from Christ (Gal 5: 4) . This is why Scripture warns born again saved believers that if they commit certain sins they will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    We can be restored back into grace by once again repenting and confessing our sins.
    Grace is NOT God choosing to save me rather than damn me. Grace is not God's compassion or kindness. Grace is God Himself infused into our soul.
     
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    You said, "During Mass, they re-crucify Christ, this is what it is, we know Christ was sacrificed once for all time"

    If you are an "expert" in Roman Theology then you know your statement is false. Please quote from the Catechism or an official document that says that. That notion is as silly as me saying that Protestants make Jesus bleed again and again so that they can be washed in His blood. Christ shed His blood once for all.

    Just as it is the same blood that saved you it is the same sacrifice at the Mass.
     
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    I am not a heretic. I am a Catholic. And I validly go to Mass.
     
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