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Unbelief is a willful rejection of the Truth. So, in the biblical sense, we stand condemned BECAUSE of unbelief.

 

Now the true agenda surfaces....sorry...but you are opposing yourselves by denying the effects of the fall. make no mistake about it...you cannot ignore the garden and come out alright.

 

So, citing biblical references, what are the effects of the fall?

 

all of us are born as sinners after Adam, as in Adam, and are under judgement.

 

Yep, got it. But what does Scripture say?

John 3:18
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Yes, i'm going with the simple Explanation of our Lord.

 

Even if they never heard of Him, they stand condemned, correct?

 

What's up with all your philosophy? Address Scripture brother.

 

gen6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

eccl7:

29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

9:
3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.
Jer13:
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
Jer17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

rom1
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


rom8:
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

1cor2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

All in Adam are lost, the state that we were physically born into!

 

The heart of man is deceitful and wicked, and as such, will not come to god to get saved by Christ!

 

All those that were His sheep, not the goats!

 

God does not damn sinners by causing them to go to hell directly, but he had predestinate their eternal state, as they were found to be in their sins and in Adam, not in Christ!

 

The sheep are the elect of God, while the goats are those still lost in their sins!