"Modern Israel at 70"

Yup.

 

If the jews would only just lay down and die, amiright ?

 

Aint gonna happen...

 

I don’t know anything about Zionism or anything like that. I don’t know anything about the argument over who the real Jews are. I don’t care. Israel exists and has a right to defend herself.

And we’ve had to bail England out of two world wars. It would be ridiculous to take their advice concerning self defense or nation preservation I’ll simply consider the source.


Why aren’t the millions of Muslim Arabs who live in Israel rioting ?

 

If they'd only stop stealing other people's property and shooting children dead.

Get back to me when that happens

 

All of which is obvious.

 

The last administration sent them 1.6 billion in cash in a C130 so they can afford it.

 

This post is despicable.

 

No, it's the truth, which evidently you can't handle.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if those some of those jihadists who are being paid are getting American greenbacks which came over on the plane as "an incentive" to keep them from building their nukes for 10 years.

As a sidenote I am personally grieved by the bloodshed on both sides.

Who's to blame? well the argument will eventually go all the way back to the brothers Isaac and Ishmael and apparently won't be healed until Jesus returns.

 

You believe what you believe, & I’ll believe what I believe. I believe I won’t listen to anything you have to say, so carry on.

 

The point of the thread is that Christian Zionists look to OT prophecy for the state of Israel to be established in "end times" & massive financial & military support is being given by US influenced by fundamentalists & Jewish lobbyists, & by the UK influenced by Jewish lobbyists.

They argue -
Gen. 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you is quoted to make America afraid of losing God's blessing it it fails to support Israel 150%. Vast numbers of "Jews" have moved to Israel & established settlements by the displacement of Palestinians, & theft of land & resources. The land was promised to Abraham & his seed, so it's all the will of God, they say. Displacement of the Christian & Muslim Palestinians is their policy.

The quotations from the Puritans & Spurgeon are concerned with the conversion of the Jews. I wonder what they would say about the present situation where Israel continues in total rejection of their Messiah, & the Old Covenant Law? The conversion of the Jews can take place wherever they are on earth, & any holding of the land can only be temporary. not eternal, for Jesus will return for resurrection & judgment & will bring about the NH&NE. A millennium will not fulfill the promise & prophecies for eternity.

Jesus & his Apostles did not teach a return to the land after the destruction. People read that into some of their teaching. (e.g Spurgeon)

Jesus is the fulfilment of prophecy, not the earthly nation of Israel.The Jews in their thousands did believe the Gospel, first of John, then Jesus in his earthly ministry, at Pentecost & after as recorded in Acts. The many thousands included priests & Pharisees. But these converted Jews were viciously persecuted by the Jewish leaders & presumably did not maintain a "Jewish Christian" identity. They formed the Church, & accepted Gentiles into the Church. All according to prophecy.

The state of Israel is of no prophetic significance.

 

Ditto. Suits me, sir!

 

Now I'm going to post this and watch all hell break loose if it hasn't already... In Acts 1:6 the disciples ask Jesus a question, does the question bare an answer?... Its surely not the answer they expected... Don't concern yourself with it!... You preach the Gospel!... You feed my sheep!... You preach the message I gave you!... I'm not a preacher but in over the 50 years I have been walking with the Lord and as long as I've been on this board... You brethren who are... Don't concern yourself with it!... PREACH THE GOSPEL!... Brother Glen

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.