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"Modern Israel at 70"

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church mouse guy

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Now I'm going to post this and watch all hell break loose if it hasn't already... In Acts 1:6 the disciples ask Jesus a question, does the question bare an answer?... Its surely not the answer they expected... Don't concern yourself with it!... You preach the Gospel!... You feed my sheep!... You preach the message I gave you!... I'm not a preacher but in over the 50 years I have been walking with the Lord and as long as I've been on this board... You brethren who are... Don't concern yourself with it!... PREACH THE GOSPEL!... Brother Glen:)

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

The Alabama Professor McDermott commented already: "Jesus did not challenge their assumption that one day the kingdom would be restored to physical Israel. He simply said the Father had set the date, and they did not yet need to know it." We know from Scripture that we are in the last days but we do not know how long Jesus will tarry before He returns, the Blessed Hope.
 

Matt Black

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Well, yes, shooting unarmed protesters is a bit one-sided. We tried that in Derry in the 1970s; it didn't end too well...
 

church mouse guy

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Hamas said 50 of 62 killed were Hamas terrorists operatives. Gazans plan to burn 10,000 tires on Friday. They must be hoping that the smoke doesn't settle on them. Gazans have no future--they need to move away but the Arabs hold them prisoner in a densely populated pit.
 

Covenanter

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Hamas said 50 of 62 killed were Hamas terrorists operatives. Gazans plan to burn 10,000 tires on Friday. They must be hoping that the smoke doesn't settle on them. Gazans have no future--they need to move away but the Arabs hold them prisoner in a densely populated pit.

It would be helpful if you post the link to such information - it's from the Jewish Chronicle.

That seems to be targeted killing of people on a "death list" and gives the lie to Hamas sending "human shields" rather than leading by example.

Such accurate targeted killing shows that the maiming of a doctor, & killing his assistant were likely to be deliberate targeting.
 

Covenanter

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Covenanter

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I just listed some NT verses for you so you will have to change your talking points. I also quoted Spurgeon.

Answered below. Spurgeon doesn't give specific Scripture.

An Anglican professor from Beeson Divinity School in Alabama provided some NT evidence from the Puritans:

For example, Jesus predicted that one day Jerusalem would welcome him (Luke 13:34–35). In Matthew 24 he said that when the Son of Man returns, “all the tribes of the land will mourn,” quoting Zechariah’s prophecy about the inhabitants of Jerusalem mourning when “the LORD will give salvation to the tents of Judah” (Zech. 12:7, 10).
In Matthew 24, Mark 13 & Luke 21, Jesus is prophesying the AD 70 destruction, when all the tribes certainly mourned, while the believing Jews fled to safety.
They looked on the pierced on at Calvary - John 19:37 - and mourned at Pentecost - Acts 2:37. Read onto Zec. 13:1 and the fountain was opened as 3,000 repented, were baptised and forgiven.

Then in Matthew 19 Jesus told his disciples that “in the new world, when the Son of Man shall sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel” (v. 28).
That is the NH&NE.

When his disciples asked Jesus just before his ascension, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” (Acts 1:6), Jesus did not challenge their assumption that one day the kingdom would be restored to physical Israel. He simply said the Father had set the date, and they did not yet need to know it.
Jesus had apparently omitted the answer to their question during the previous 40 days speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God. Once the Holy Spirit was poured on them, to teach them they never mentioned a restored kingdom.

In Acts 3 Peter looked forward to “the times of restoration of all things which God spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets from ancient time” (Acts 3:21). The word Peter used for “restoration” was the same word (apokatastasis) used in the Septuagint (which the early church used as its Bible) for God’s future return of Jews from all over the world to Israel. And in Revelation the Lamb draws his followers to Zion in the final stage of history (Rev. 14:1), and the new earth is centered in Jerusalem, which has 12 gates named after “the 12 tribes of the sons of Israel” (Rev. 21:2, 12).
Read on in Acts 3.
22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’
The Jews who refused to hear that Prophet were NOT promised restoration. Only those who believe, including Gentiles will be blessed in the restoration through Abraham's seed, Jesus:
24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

 

Covenanter

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It's all over the internet that it the info came from Hamas official Salah Al-Bardawil.
That is NOT a reply to my previous reply -

 

Bro. Curtis

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Hamas themselves are calling you Brits “liars”.

I’ll believe them over you, this time. We
 

Bro. Curtis

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You snip the most binary person I have ever talked to.

I’m sorry you hate people who defend themselves. SNIP

If Palestine laid down their arms there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel laid down their arms there would be no Israel tomorrow. Cliche, true. But absolutely true. People have a right to defend their borders.

Stop snip and admit at least some of the “protesters” were armed ?
 
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Matt Black

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Explain how in what God-forsaken (quite literally) universe the IDF shooting dead children on Palestinian soil (they were about a mile inside the border is 'defending themselves'?!!
 

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So you’re continuing to fool yourself. None of the protester were armed ?

And save your personal attack whining. You can dish it out.
 
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