Featured Calvinist Confusion

I agree.
The "free will guy" tells it from his perspective.
Then God's word comes along, and tells him ( that "free will guy", that used to be me ) why He chose to repent and believe.

Yes, from my perspective, I chose to count it all loss and follow God...but again, God's word comes along, and tells me why I chose to follow Jesus Christ.
Out of left field, I heard the word of God that described my situation before Him, as a helpless sinner, and believed it.
No choice was actually required.

I simply believed.

Why did I believe?
God's word tells me that I believed because I was chosen by Him ( 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 ) and given the gift of belief ( Philippians 1:29 ).

 

Close enough...John Knox, if I get my history right.

 

So...
Here's what I've gotten so far being on this forum:

To most "non-Calvinists", anyone who believes and teaches the so-called "Doctrines of Grace" is labeled as a "Calvinist".
Unless of course you're a "non-Calvinist" who believes in the "Doctrines of Grace", and then you will get labeled as a "Calvinist" by the other "non-Calvinists".

Am I getting all of this right?

 

I really don't think you do.

 

John 3 verse 16.

Can't be any simpler than that.

 

Its their go to answer on anything they cannt defend

 

Hello Cavell, I am a simple basic Christian who also loves Jn.3:16....so I am not sure what you mean by posting this fine verse.
. 16 for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.

 

Not really. It is easily defended. God does His will for His own glory.

When Israel was chosen from among the nations....God gave some explanation;
6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

9 Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.

11 Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.

It is not spoken of as a mystery.
jer313 The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

Jew and gentile on equal footing was previously a mystery,
Eph3
Ephesians 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:


and of course this:
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

 

Why did you believe and not Him?

 

So you would have to be Calvinist at least in Sotierology, if you really do affirm the 5 points of Grace!