Featured "Women's roles in the church"

We have other texts that speak on things such as being a deacon or shepherd to call on for roles.

A woman can't be a husband of one wife. For instance.

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Can we really-- really-- keep entirely within scriptural bounds in our church proceedings?

I don't know of a church anywhere that has 2 or 3 [no less, no more] prophets speak 2 or 3 [no less, no more] speak in tongues, nor do I know of any church that requires a woman to wear a head covering if she prays or prophesies. I've heard of a few churches that require women to have a headcovering-- besides her hair [I Corinthians 11:15]-- but not just for praying or prophesying, even to enter the building, while men (and boys) must not enter with any type of headcovering-- not just take it off to pray or prophesy. In fact. most churches still 'frown' upon a man wearing any type of hat or cap, but for women it has become optional.

So.... headcovering on or off is cultural, while scriptural only requires a man not wear a headcovering while praying or prophesying, while requiring a woman to wear such in same situation. Do you know of any churches at all which proceed and require it exactly this way?

 

Well bless their heart.

 

Oh its at least worth a dead dog. Maybe even a cup of coffee

 

Here's the verdict on this:

John Calvin in his Institutes, IV.10.29-30

"the hours set apart for public prayer, sermon, and solemn services; during sermon, quiet and silence, fixed places, singing of hymns, days set apart for the celebration of the Lord’s Supper, the prohibition of Paul against women teaching in the Church, and such like....things of this nature are not necessary to salvation, and, for the edification of the Church, should be accommodated to the varying circumstances of each age and nation, it will be proper, as the interest of the Church may require, to change and abrogate the old, as well as to introduce new forms. I confess, indeed, that we are not to innovate rashly or incessantly, or for trivial causes. Charity is the best judge of what tends to hurt or to edify: if we allow her to be guide, all things will be safe.
Things which have been appointed according to this rule, it is the duty of the Christian people to observe with a free conscience indeed, and without superstition, but also with a pious and ready inclination to obey. They are not to hold them in contempt, nor pass them by with careless indifference, far less openly to violate them in pride and contumacy. You will ask, What liberty of conscience will there be in such cautious observances? Nay, this liberty will admirably appear when we shall hold that these are not fixed and perpetual obligations to which we are astricted, but external rudiments for human infirmity, which, though we do not all need, we, however, all use, because we are bound to cherish mutual charity towards each other. This we may recognise in the examples given above. What? Is religion placed in a woman’s bonnet, so that it is unlawful for her to go out with her head uncovered? Is her silence fixed by a decree which cannot be violated without the greatest wickedness? Is there any mystery in bending the knee, or in burying a dead body, which cannot be omitted without a crime? By no means. For should a woman require to make such haste in assisting a neighbour that she has not time to cover her head, she sins not in running out with her head uncovered. And there are some occasions on which it is not less seasonable for her to speak than on others to be silent. Nothing, moreover, forbids him who, from disease, cannot bend his knees, to pray standing. In fine, it is better to bury a dead man quickly, than from want of grave-clothes, or the absence of those who should attend the funeral, to wait till it rot away unburied. Nevertheless, in those matters the custom and institutions of the country, in short, humanity and the rules of modesty itself, declare what is to be done or avoided."

 

And yours, too, I'm sure. But did you refer to those churches or to the women?

 

Teach the children. Teach younger women. Teach other women. Run the nursery. Cook for the eating. Run VBS. Other than that, remain silent. I don't even think they should vote in the church.

 

Why would they not be allowed to do these things biblically?

 

As long as it fits Biblical modesty.

 

Watch your language, man!

 

Just because Paul said to remain silent at that time does not make it a prescription for how it should always be. Their circumstances were chaotic in the services. Paul was just trying to have them do all things orderly.

 

Yikes, I am betting you don't have a lot of returning visitors. Yeesh!!!

 

I believe this is the overriding principle:
[Gal 3:28 KJV] 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

Bible says what it says.