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Either Paul, in writing Romans 11, is stating facts concerning national political Israel in which he served in the interest of the temple rulers as Saul, or Paul was delusional perhaps as the result of the many beatings and deprivations he endured.

Are you really going to attempt to present Romans 2 as discrediting Romans 11 that clearly declares God most certainly has a plan for national/political Israel? Was this not exactly the question Paul presented in the opening verses of Romans 11?

There is a single Biblically accepted view of the future. It is that found from chapter 19 and following in Revelation.

 

No, He taught the coming of such, not that it was then, or now as proven by the most absolutely clear statements of Revelation 19 and following.

When giving the example, believers are to pray, “Thy Kingdom come...” not for a current kingdom, but one yet future to come.

Therefore, most certainly Jesus DID teach of a future literal physical millennial Kingdom.

 

Do you think we are currently in the millennium?

 

Many Dispensationalists go with the two event return of Christ, first the rapture event where we meet Christ in the air, and second where Christ sets foot on the mount. Others of course hold differing views.

 

I recommend Noone read The Book of Revelation, begining with Chapter 1, as if God Intended The SEVEN VISIONS Stated to be 'read chronologically'.

If a chronological reading is undertaken, as if God wants us to Understand that we must "observe a sequence of events', that sequence doesn't exist.

It doesn't exist in Genesis 1 to 3, The Kings, Chronicles, and Samuel's, or in Daniel, or by reading the Four Gospels straight through, and Revelation is not the first Book God Wrote.

There are Seven VISIONS,
with Seven ASCENTIONS, or First Advents, and SEVEN SECOND COMING in JUDGMENT.

Have you seen them?

All of "The First Advents"
depict "The First Advent"

and all of "The Second Comings"
depict "The Second Coming".

Each VISION HAS ONE of EACH.

THAT is The Divine Interpretation structure of The Book of Revelation.

You need to see it.

I've got some things to show them somewhere.

More Than Conquerors: An Interpretation of the Book of Revelation
Book by William Hendriksen is the go-to CLASSIC.

Presently, there are several exceptional works presenting the Herminutic that will get you what God wants you to Understand.

Otherwise, people are just completely making stuff up AND THEY KNOW IT.

All God's children need an introduction of the 'design' of Revelation, IMO.

This link is rushing ahead and giving you Kim Riddalbarger's first Section of Revelation.

You can find his series and it is good because he is a 'scribe', in The Kingdom of The Son.

This is NOT what you need, first, but where is my Hendriksen collection of Gold? Looking...


9.1.1a “THE TIME IS NEAR” Pt. 1 in Section 1 of REVELATION Chapter 1:1 – 3:22 / “JESUS CHRIST in the MIDST of the LAMP-STANDS.”

 

There is no Millennium. It is a Jewish fable that Christ refuted by teaching a spiritual kingdom only in the Gospels.

 

AT THAT TIME the KOG was spiritual, and still is. But it WILL be physical, as Scripture says. WHY DO YOU KEEP DENYING THIS WHEN IT'S IN PLAIN SCRIPTURE ?????????????????

 

SCRIPTURE says otherwise ! !

 

Jesus won't come to earth in the rapture. HE will call US to HIMSELF.

 

The Millennium is an old Pharisee doctrine Christ refuted in the gospels. Those who would rather walk by sight than by faith adopted it and tried to "Christianize" it.

 

I think that is what I said.

 

I have often wondered why a Bible Believer would ever have the word, 'Millennium', in their vocabulary.

Where did that word come from?

I don't want to know.

I don't care.

It is a meaningless, ridiculous, irrational word, for any Bible Believer.

 

At the beginning of The Book of Revelation,
John is "in The Spirit"....

John is being Given Revelation, in at the beginning of The Book of Revelation, IN A VISION, also, right?

There are SEVEN VISIONS.

EACH VISION SPANS A TIME PERIOD
from JESUS FIRST COMING
to JESUS SECOND COMING.

See if you can see where:

The First Coming of Christ
is mentioned in 1:5:
...

"And from Jesus Christ,

WHO

is The Faithful Witness,

and

The First Begotten

of the dead,

and

The Prince of

the Kings of the earth.

Unto Him that Loved us,

and

Washed us from our sins

in His Own Blood"


THEN WHERE:

The Second Coming

of Christ:

is mentioned

in this Section 1 of 7

found in Revelation 1:7:

"Behold, He comes with clouds;
and
every eye will see Him,
and
they also who pierced Him:
and
all tribes of the earth
will wail because of Him.
Even so, Amen."

THAT IS THE END of THE WORLD,
in REVELATION 1:7.

The First Section concerns
"Christ in the Midst of the Lampstands"
( Revelation 1:1 - 3:22).

...

THEN THE SECTION SECTION
BEGINS by SHOWING:

Jesus Christ's First Coming,

in Revelation 5:5,6;

"And one of the elders
said to me,
Weep not:
behold,
The Lion of the tribe of Juda,
The Root of David,
has Prevailed
to Open the Book,
and
to Loose
the seven seals thereof."

"And I beheld, and, see,
in the middle of the Throne
and
of the four beasts,
and
in the middle of the elders,
Stood a Lamb
as it had been Slain,
having seven horns
and seven eyes,
which are
the seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the Earth."


THEN SEE IF YOU CAN SEE:

in Revelation 6:17
& Revelation 7:16,17;
later in this same Second Section
of Seven
'Groups of Chapters',

WHERE IT IS DESCRIBING
THE END of THE WORLD, AGAIN,

ONLY IN MORE DEPTH of MEANING and......

R E V E L A T I O N .....

EVENTS in The Second 'Section'
or SECOND VISION ASSOCIATED

with

Christ's Second Coming

AND

THE END of THE WORLD

are in:

Revelation 6:17;

"Because
The Great Day of His Wrath
is Come;
and who
shall be able to stand?"

&
in Revelation 7:16,17;

"They will hunger no more,
neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun
light on them,
nor any heat.

Because the Lamb
which is in
the middle of The Throne
Will Feed them,
and
Will Lead them
to Living Fountains of Waters:
and
God Will Wipe Away
all tears from their eyes."

The Second Section
concerns
"The Vision of Heaven
and the Seals"
(Revelation 4:1 - 7:17).

...

Did you just see "TWO FIRST ADVENTS"
&
"TWO ENDS of THE WORLD" RECORDED?

THERE ARE FIVE MORE in The Book of Revelation,

and FIVE MORE VISIONS.

...

ALL SEVEN VISIONS SPAN
"OUR PRESENT INNER-ADVENTAL AGE".

From Jesus' FIRST ADVENT
until

"THE END of THE WORLD",
AT JESUS SECOND ADVENT.


Jesus is Coming and Prophecy CAN BE TAUGHT
and UNDERSTOOD, for CERTAIN,
BEYOND ANY SHADOW of a DOUBT.

I know we won't take Matthew 13 and 'construct a sequence of events' straight down that Chapter, so it IS O.K., to not do that in Revelation when God has Given us this Structure, for HIS ONE DIVINE INTERPRETATION.

 

Then you don’t believe the OT prophets nor John, for beginning with the prophets, the King rules in the physical kingdom John shows is a thousand years, and on throughout eternity.

And I thought you held the authority of Scriptures in the most conservative and literal ways.

Hmmmm.

 

Really?

You actually have proof of Christ refuting the very words He gave such prophets as Ezekiel?

What of that final temple that no previous temple dimensions fit?

There is NO temple in the new earth and heaven, so when did Ezekiel get it wrong?

Seems you are the one who are “Christianizing” rather than taking statement of Scripture as literal as possible.

Do you not completely bring dispute upon the whole when you, as Thomas Jefferson did with a pen knife, cut out that which you don’t happen to agree.

 

This is just funny!

Few posts later you start posting the very thing you don’t want read!

Basically, you must think John was presented a hodgepodge of demented visions because you really have very little facts from which your opinion is based.

Typical of no millennial folks, even proclaiming what is written is not written!

2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season....

...
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. ​

Just exactly is the common term for one thousand consecutive years?

And why would the exact number be repeated if it were not factual?

​

 

You didn't read what I said:

"Few posts later you start posting the very thing you don’t want read!"

...

What does this mean?

"Just exactly is the common term for one thousand consecutive years?"

...

"And why would the exact number be repeated if it were not factual?"

You don't really know, do you?

...

"Basically, you must think John was presented a hodgepodge of demented visions because you really have very little facts from which your opinion is based."

I posted the facts, in Scriptures, with the question, "did you just see...?"

and that would be a, "no".

...

You know you don't have any idea what Revelation Teaches, by knowing that you are guessing about inventing a 'sequence of events', as if God Had John "Reveal" a hodgepodge of demented visions" that you had to straighten us out on.

The is a disappointment to you, because you know you are guessing.

I have nothing to do with what you make up.

 

You posted a couple passages and then quickly vented your own unsubstantiated opinion of no particular value. I responded merely so others reading are not left drifting in adopting your opinion.

But what do I know?

Not much according to you.

You already posted I am unknowledgeable, at best guessing at things beyond my level, and, of course, blind.

But the one unchanging fact is God said it, repeated it TWICE more, and you deny it.

Now, who do you suppose God is going to look upon as one without knowledge, at best only guessing, and blind?

I suppose, if you were really interested in knowing the truth, if you really did acknowledge that, of all the Scriptures, this is the only book that states it should be read and studied regularly, and that it does present factual information, then we might engage in a more serious discussion.

As it is, how can anyone take your thinking concerning Revelation with even casual seriousness?

If God said it, repeated it, and then repeated it again in the space of a few sentences, do you really not think it worthy of being held factual?

There is more particulars given in the scope of these passages then given for the virgin birth, yet do you doubt that, too? Is not the virgin birth even less probable to have occurred as revealed?

Whole large prophetic statements are presented in more specific terms then the given for the resurrection. Do you doubt that, too?

Or, are you just mostly inconsistent in your opinions of what is and isn’t truthful?

When you get to the point of actually taking things as truthfully presented in the major areas of this book, then perhaps we can engage.

Until then, I post that others also are aware and not blinded by you opinions.

 

Your opinions is all you've got.

You know you don't know what's factual.

You can't even convince your own heart.

There has to be some reason Spiritual Passages, by a Spiritual God, can't be Spiritually decerned.

Being Led of The Spirit of God is how The Bible says God's children Spiritually Love God and Worship Him, Giving Him Glory in Salvation, and The Honor of Being The One Who Wrote The Bible.

Because, they are Teachable, in The Spiritual Realities God Has Revealed, in Revelation, and the rest of The Bible.