Romans 11

I know how they go about 'reading'.

 

The Remnant will be Saved.

 

The chance for you to see anything in the Old Testament and no longer saying, "nothing applies to us, skip it all, it's going to not take place until a Disneyland Movie far off, in Galexy far, far off in the head"

is to give yourself the option of flushing any thought of all words with 'mill' in them, WHEN YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THEIR SUPPORT, in The Bible.

Cling to that extra-Biblical influence of Satan that is without God or Bible support and yeah, you'll be sucked into, "NONE OF IT MEANS ANYTHING TO US. GOD PUT IT THERE TO SAY" STAY TUNED & WAIT TILL YOU DIE FOR ANY OF IT TO APPLY TO YOU".

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"we must interpret it eschatologically, covenantally, typologically, and ecclesiologically; as being a series of “veiled” and “mysterious” OT representations life under the New Covenant in the two-staged Kingdom that it creates.

" In short, it is through the NCH (New Covenant Hermenutic) , and through it alone, that Christians can attain what, in these last days, they so much need and desire: the full assurance of understanding (Colossians 2:2),

2. "That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;"


and the unity of the faith in the bond of peace (Ephesians 4:3, 13).

3" Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

13 "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

Adapted from Jerusalem In That Day: Interpreting Zechariah 12-14 – Come Let Us Reason
with Scriptures added.

 

If I was lost and waiting for The Messiah and died or Jesus Comes Back I would go to Hell like the vast majority of Jews are going to that aren't the diminished Remnant.

You Worship them, if you want.

They have no Hope Promised to them, apart from the Remnant.

They are lost God-Hating worms that you need to send tracks to and pay for Missionaries to them.

You're like talking to black people about helping black slaves.

I've hunted all over the World for one.

What's up?

You defend the Jews and don't give a flip if they go to Hell.

Leave them lost, so Jesus can Come Talk to them, Personally?

Is that Satan's command to you?

 

Did you try to, or try not to say anything?

Either way.

 

I don't take a back seat to any Bible Teacher, aside from Jesus, living or dead.

 

Things I teach on here are going to have to be searched far and wide to find.

Sorry, Noone appreciates a word, hardly.

They are the very, very, uttermost tip of the actual Truths of God they represent.

 

I often hear people in the NOSAS camp interpret Romans 11:17-22 to mean that saved individuals can lose their salvation. I would like to hear some arguments from the OSAS camp in rebuttal to the NOSAS interpretation of Romans 11:17-22.

 

I prefer "perseverance" or "preservation" of the saints as well. What puzzles me about the NOSAS view is that the Jews were in the olive tree to begin with because they were the "natural branches" and not because they were all saved.

 

I read through it and pretty much agreed with his understanding. This topic gets a little deep and I'm still working on processing the whole picture.

 

I believe those whom God saves, God also keeps. So the olive tree is similar to Christ being the true vine. The difference being between being grafted in as opposed to being part of the original vine.
So it is my understanding of Christ being the true vine is eveyone starts out in the vine by reason Christ died for the whole world (1 John 2:2; 1 John 5:19). And when one comes of an age to believe, then that one must in one's life time come to faith in Christ in order to remain in the vine or else will be pruned off (John 15:6; 1 John 3:4-6; Romans 4:15; Romans 6:14).