Sticks & Stones - Do You Stone The Sabbath Breaker? (Num 15:32-36)

Which has done away with the old one. A new day has dawned. We now worship the Lord on his day (Sunday) and we can eat whatever we want. We are free of the old constraints, those 600+ constraints and we are now acceptable to God becuase we have been freed by Jesus Christ!

So tell us, do you keep kosher?
Do you refrain from all and any work on your Sabbath? (Riding in the car is also forbidden)
Do you observe all the OT Jewish Holy Days?
How about a prayer shawl, do you wear one?
Do you worship with females?
Do you have a beard?

 

it seems you have cleverly twisted the word of God and it seems that you know you have.
The broken law of Moses was dealt with immediately then as now (or should be) else the Sabbath itself need not be kept. Shame.

 

Good advice.

 

We are indeed in the NEW COVENANT. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's eternal LAW (10 commandments) not the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the laws for remission of sin have the same role they always have and that is to give us the "KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL; SIN AND RIGHTOUESNESS" *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4 and if we "KNOWINGLY" break any one of them, we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. God's 4th Commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *JAMES 2:10-11.

Now be honest brother gird your loins and let's discuss scripture?

Where is the scripture that says Gods' 4th commandment has been "ABOLISHED" and we are now commanded to keep "SUNDAY" as a HOLY DAY?

Please show me a single scripture that says "THE LORDS DAY" is "SUNDAY" or the first day of the week?

BTW "THE LORDS DAY" according to God's WORD is the SABBATH DAY *MATTHEW 12:8.

Now if you have no scripture that says that God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday or the first day of the week as a Holy day than all your have is a man made teaching and traditions that breaks the commandments of God.

JESUS says all those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God after they receive a knowledge of the truth are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9; HEBREWS 10:26-39.

Who are you following; God's Word or the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God? Something to pray about don't you think?

Where does it say in God's WORD we can now eat whatever we want? If you have no scripture for your teachings than why are you teaching things that are not biblical?

Yes I follow the dietry laws of Gods' WORD
Yes I refrain from work on the Sabbath.
No the Holy days are MOSAIC Shadow laws fulfilled in Christ or at the judgment and second coming.
No external law applies to the inward application to which it points to like circumcision.

Now if you have no scripture for your position who do you do you believe and who do you follow?

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

 

It is not what goes into a man's mouth that is harmful, it is what comes out of it.

Now you do realize that eating the meat you buy at the Piggly Wiggly does not count as adhering to God's dietary laws? All that meat (most of which is not certified kosher) has blood in it and God's dietary laws prohibit the consumption of blood even in the minutest amounts.

 

I think SDA is vegan or that is the target.

 

Let's talk scripture brother with all the context?

MARK 7:1-3
[1], Then came together to him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
[2], And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashed, hands, they found fault.
[3], For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
[4], And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brazen vessels, and of tables.
[5], Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not your disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?
[6], He answered and said to them, Well has Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
[7], However, in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
[8], For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things you do.
[9], And he said to them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition.
[10], For Moses said, Honor your father and your mother; and, Whoever curses father or mother, let him die the death:
[11], But you say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatever you might be profited by me; he shall be free.
[12], And you suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
[13], Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such like things do you.
[14], And when he had called all the people to him, he said to them, Listen to me every one of you, and understand:
[15], There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

Note some interesting lessons here which is the CONTEXT you leave out of v15.

1. Your reference is in relation to the man made tradition (not biblical) of washing hands v2
2. It was a man made teaching and traditions v3
3. It was a man made teaching and tradition of the Elders v4
4. The Scribes and Pharisees asked JESUS why do you not follow the teachings and traditions of the elders and wash your hands? v5
5. JESUS told them they honor God with their lips but not with their heart v6
6. JESUS tells them it is vain (useless) to worship God teaching for doctrine the commandments of men v7
7. They broke God's Commandments in order to follow man made teachings and traditions v8
8. In fact they REJECTED God's 5th commandment of Honoring their father and mother in order to follow man made teachings and traditions that broke the commandments of God v9-10
9. By doing the above JESUS closes by saying they make the Word of God of none effect by following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God v13

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CONCLUSION: MARK 7:15 was a man-made tradition and teaching that is not biblical that the Scribes and Pharisees were following. JESUS tells the Scribes and Pharisees, that they do not worship God by following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God and those who follow man made teaching and traditions that break the commandments of God make the Word of God of none effect! The scriptures here no where talk about clean and unclean foods. They are talking about washing of hands and cups and following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God and make the Word of God of none effect.

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Now brother I did notice you completely avoided and ignored the first part of my post to you as posted earlier in post # 24 linked and the questions asked you in that post which is very relavant to what we are discussing now?

As posted earlier...

Where is the scripture that says Gods' 4th commandment has been "ABOLISHED" and we are now commanded to keep "SUNDAY" as a HOLY DAY?

Please show me a single scripture that says "THE LORDS DAY" is "SUNDAY" or the first day of the week?

BTW "THE LORDS DAY" according to God's WORD is the SABBATH DAY *MATTHEW 12:8.

Now if you have no scripture that says that God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday or the first day of the week as a Holy day than all your have is a man made teaching and traditions that breaks the commandments of God.

JESUS says all those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God after they receive a knowledge of the truth are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9; HEBREWS 10:26-39.

Who are you following; God's Word or the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God?

Something to pray about don't you think?

Perhaps its time brother to start prayerfully reading God's WORD for yourself instead of letting others tell you what it means? Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear.

Receive God's WORD and be blessed.

 

my wife had our first two babies in an SDA hospital.

they did not serve MEAT.

 

looks like the menu was - added to (but no blood).
Genesis 9
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

Also it looks like - slugs, snails and puppy dog tails - are OK to eat also ("every moving thing").

 

But the doctors there did perform elective abortions! What a treat for Jesus!

 

“So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.”
~ Romans‬ ‭3:28

 

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Apparently, everyone on this board but you knows that the Catholic Church condemns abortion doctrinally and dogmatically. Your cult does not in fact participates in elective abortions in its abortion mills and hospitals 24/7, even your so-called Sabbath. So you can try to change the subject on to the Catholic Church all you want and get it away from your abortion loving SDA or you can deny that you're hospitals/abortion mills are packing up babies as we speak.
https://ronaldlawsonnet.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/pro-what-seventh-day-adventists-and-abortion.pdf

 

Yep, the extent some will go to avoid not discussing scripture and spreading misinformation. Seems many will find out only too late that by rejecting God's WORD they did not hear God's Voice and know the day of their visitation.