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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JonC, Mar 6, 2020.

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  1. MB

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    Here you go again living by interpretation instead of what does God's word actually say.
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    Where is your scripture that defines it
     
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    Define holy
     
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    According to you everyone except you is wrong. You are another one who lives by your interpretation instead of what does God's word say
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    Romans 8:9-11
    9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
    10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

    Eph. 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise

    2 Cor. 1:21-22 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God,
    22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
     
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    Holy is perfection. Perfection does not sin nor can it Adam sinned even before he ate the fruit if you like being technical. Simply because he also thought of eating from the tree before he did

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    Sinless, sacred, and worthy of worship.
     
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    Now show me in the ot where they were indwelt
     
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    I am not. I am talking about the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world and the "first Adam" created natural, not spiritual.

    Is there a passage that says Adam was created spiritual and then this human spirit died that we can examine?
     
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    Show me your scripture
     
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    Is there a passage that says it wasnt? Again what does it mean to be spiritually alive?
     
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    Adam was in a right relationship with God before the fall, he did not need messiah while in the sinless state, so he had to have spiritual life with god at that time! he was natural, but we also are both natural and have spiritual life now...
    And we really do not know just how glorious Adam was before he fell, as he would have been the greatest creation project of God, His crown Jewel!
    And also, we do know that per the Bible, death did not enter into creation until there was sin and the fall, so Adam would indeed have lived forever with God in paradise if he had not fallen!
     
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    I don't know that there is a verse or verses that spell it out as a definition. The only thing I can think of is when God was the burning bush and appeared to Moses. He said to take off his sandals because he was standing on "holy ground". That would be sacred ground. God was there and was worthy of worship. Moses could not look upon him and was frightened.

    What is the definition of the hebrew word for "holy"?
     
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    Adam was a unique case, being created by God to be sinless human, and as such, was in a state that was in spiritual relationship with God directly, as did not need any mediator between him and God...
    Spiritual life means to be in a spiritual relationship, to be known of By God as One of his own children...
     
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    Rather than play this game, why don't you simply lay out what you believe? I've done my part.
     
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    They were still regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and Adam before he fell was in a unique situation!
     
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    God created Adam with physical life, but then also "breathed" spiritual life into Him, as Adam could not have any relationship with god apart from having spiritual life when created!
     
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    So says the one holding to non biblical theology themselves!
     
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    Pure and undefiled
     
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    @JonC I'd love to discuss this topic with you but I'm afraid I'm still where we left off last time, simply trying to understand your interpretation of Genesis 2:17 before I can even address it.
     
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