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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reformed1689, Apr 10, 2020.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Ok now you and I thought had come to an understanding but if you want to play rough im not interested.

    Unfortunately you misunderstand the context here as you do in John 6. Further, saying all that the Father gives Him comes to Him does not prove your point.
     
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    Terminology is not universal. Rev Mitch seeking Clarification does not justify questioning his status, calling, or abilities as pastor.
     
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    He did but that doesnt negate His talking about the disciples in 24
     
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    I'm not playing rough. Sorry if it came across that way brother! You and I DO have an understanding. I'm going to bow out of this thread for now.

    Let us take time to reflect on the more important matter, what did Christ do so many years ago this night?
     
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    I have been on here for a few yrs and know that he has been on here longer than me

    It was shocking for me to read thats all that was meant.

    Grace and peace
     
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    Me.

    And I’ve had 1,000 official hours of SBC Sunday School Training.

    Why do you call it the High Priestly Prayer?
     
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    By coming to Jesus in belief, repentance, & submission, one BECOMES elect.
     
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    No, the elect come to Jesus in believe, repentance, and submission. They were GIVEN to Him by the Father. Scripture is explicit on that. No man comes to God naturally.
     
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    I dont. I, like John Macarthur, Call it The Lords prayer. I call the other one The Model prayer. Thats why its never wrong to seek clarity before beginning discussion.
     
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    By an action today, one becomes something he already was before the foundations of The Earth were laid?
     
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    John MacArthur also refers to it as the High Priestly Prayer.



     
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    No, one joins those who were pre-ordained. If everyone was already predestined no matter what, there'd be no use to worship at all.
     
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    If that were so for all the saved, there'd be no need for Bibles, preachers, or worshipping at all.
     
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    He most commonly refers to it as The Lords Prayer. In his commentary, he goes off on a long spill about why it is The true Lords prayer. It was our Lord praying, not our Lord teaching others to pray.
     
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    I am aware. Though, if you look through his messages he actually refers to them about equally. But most people know it is the High Priestly Prayer if they have ever read more than one commentary. ;)
     
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    Some were pre-ordained and some were not?
     
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    Of course that isn't true at all.
     
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    Where is it in scripture that some were pre-ordained and others were not?
     
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    I know it is called the High Priestly prayer. I also know that many people who never attended seminary do not know it by that name.
    I like Macarthur commentary because he is a Calvinist. I can always go to it and have a known balance against what I know and what I learned. My Arminian theology books and commentaries have dust on them.
     
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