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Featured Scripture the Greatest Gift to Mankind,pt.2

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Iconoclast, May 6, 2020.

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  1. InTheLight

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    This whole scenario you are putting forth is question begging.

    Essentially you are saying without the Bible we wouldn't have the Bible to describe God.

    As has been pointed out, simply having the Bible does not mean that everyone will hold it in reverence as the sole written authority on the nature of God. When we claim the Bible tells us of God, people don't need to accept it.
     
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    Better question - what good is Scripture if we do not believe passages like Romans 1:20-21 is true?
     
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    No...without special revelation from God we would have no idea who He is. We would not have a proper understanding of the world we live in.
    Who would define right and wrong? Cannibals? Sodomites?
     
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    You've created a red herring or avoiding the issue fallacy--No one disagrees that the Scriptures are an incredibly gracious gift from Our Father. And no one is disagreeing that we absolutely need it in order to have specific knowledge of God. You act as if that is what this thread is about. You're the OP. The Gospel would have spread--just like some form of God's revelation did from Abraham to Moses--had we only had word of mouth communication--just like it DID.

    We agree--Scripture is God's special revelation.

    And Christ is God's Perfect Revelation.
     
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    It amazes me that this thread has continued to a part 2. Why would anyone seriously contemplate whether God's love in giving His only Son is not as great as Scripture? Even if we did not know we should be able to read in our Bible what is the greatest! Even if we did not know, we should read in our Bibles where people know of sin and even God without Scripture.

    The OP is concerning.
     
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    So you are assuming that because he drives a truck that he doesn’t have an edu.... how arrogant is that?
     
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    RighteousnessTemperance&

     
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    Some might say that is slightly ignorant,:Sick:Cautious:Cautious:Wink
     
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    Which is evident via bring in Catholics and other denom! But shouldn’t one be regenerated in order to post on Baptist portions of the form? After all, are they not to profess that in order to be allowed to post here in the first place?
     
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    The fact that some attempt to pervert the OP. trying to twist it to say something it does not, is similar to Satan twisting scripture when he sought out Jesus

    6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

    7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    Here is what it actually said;
    11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

    12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
    Satan left this out changing the intent of the verse. We should not follow Satan.
     
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    It’s an assumption not a fact. Oh never mind.
     
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    Nor understand it... so the conclusion is you must be a student of the Bible to be saved... ie, the primacy of the Bible. I for one disagree. How can someone in a foreign country w/o Bible literacy be saved? How do people with physical and/or mental disabilities get saved? God is far bigger than that brothers!
     
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    I didn't say that, and you know it.

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    Yes, it is *exactly* like that. Give it a rest...



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    In the 1st thread I mentioned that a little bit I forget what post
     
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    You know I TLI just play the hand dealt I'd look at the situation and I give an accurate observation of what I see. You had a chance to call you declined it so now you have always questions I could easily be answered a one phone call but you go on and on like this you the make the call or stop with these questions
     
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    If only I would have phoned Iconoclast! I could have achieved Enlightenment!

    Can we close this thread now, mods?

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    The thread can stay open but you are dismissed seeing you have nothing really to add to the thread you just doing usual Drive By Post taking little cheap shots but if you have anything of substance feel free to enter back yet thank you
     
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    Yes, but we take people at their word. Dealing with folks here for almost 20 years I have come to suspect some believe they are saved when they are not. One member even gave that testimony.

    We look at how people treat one another and make a guess. But we do not put a voice to that guess as that would be a violation of the rules (and rightly so).
     
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    Well I don't know about you were avoiding the issue fallacy and all that philosophical mumbo-jumbo but I noticed you slowly inching your way towards the position of the Opie which I take as a positive sign.
     
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