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Your reading and comprehension is very poor. Christ did die for the sins of the whole world. You don't even understand the simplest of points of scripture. And you call someone a universalist because of it. You must be one of those who deny what scripture actually says.In favor of your own interpretation. However your interpretation is wrong. Scripture never says Christ died for the elect alone. Wouldn't matter anyways because you're not elect you're just a Gentile.
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You have no passage that says you're elect and that Christ died only for the elect. Not only this but only Jesus Saves. God does not put people in Christ. Jesus Saves them and only then are they in Christ The Holy Spirit does not save people either. He is our comforter not our savior

Christ died for the whole world and you are denying what Christ Himself said in scripture.
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I have plenty but your citation will do fine, Jesus became the propitiation or means of salvation for the sins of the whole world. Only those placed in Christ have God's wrath turned aside for their individual sins. So the verse says anyone in the whole world, all mankind can have their sins forgiven.

 

Please stop misrepresenting my view!! I did not say or suggest, rather I deny Jesus paid only for the elect. He bought everyone, those to be saved and those never to be saved.

I told you that when God places a person into Christ, that is what "saves" the person because they are then (1) made alive (born anew, regenerated), they undergo the washing of regeneration which removes their sin burden (what God holds against them) and thus set aside (sanctified) in Christ we become "saints."

 

And again my view is misrepresented, wasting my time, and derailing any actual discussion of scripture.
You claim "God does not put people in Christ." 1 Corinthians 1:30 says we are "in Christ" by God's doing (NASB).
Of course the Holy Spirit saves people when He sets them apart in Christ, the "sanctification by the Spirit. 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
Of course Christ is our Savior, no one suggested or said otherwise, so deflection on display.

 

It still happens today, see all of those clinging to being water baptized, member of a church, had an alter call etc!

 

They are regenerated first, and then can believe and receive Jesus as Lord!

 

You conveniently forget that Paul taught in the synagogues in both places. No where does it say Gentiles were present or that Gentiles are elect. It does not Say Gentiles are elect ever. You are reading what is in your imagination.
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Romans 8:29-30

 

Utter nonsense, utterly false. Scripture teacher we are made alive TOGETHER WITH CHRIST. Ephesians 2:5.

 

Utterly false nonsense. And note the gratuitous disparagement. BTW everyone saved was chosen for salvation, thus to deny their election is to deny their salvation. UFN

 

There you go on about poor ol DL Moody again. As if any purported crime you accuse him of hadn't been committed centuries before.

First person to use church money for a mansion, huh?
Palace of Castel Gandolfo - Wikipedia

 

Keep going, as in Ephesians 2:8-10

 

Utterly non germane deflection, we are made alive only when God puts us into Christ because we are made alive together with Christ.

 

God chose us in Christ before we were saved!

 

No Scripture to prove this. If chosen before Salvation then why? . Man is not chosen as a sinner so we are not chosen before the foundation of the world. Explain why there is no scripture that clearly states that Gentiles are elect. If in fact they are.
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"Christ died for the sins of the whole world." This is your claim.
Was his atonement, in that death, effectual for all humanities sins? Or is his atonement effectual for a limited number?

 

Y1 repeats his false doctrine non-stop, never addressing all the scripture that precludes the Calvinist view.
For example 1 Peter 2:9-10 absolutely precludes being chosen before being born and not being a people having not received mercy. But Y1 will simply ignore scripture and post "taint so."

 

2 Thessalonians 2:13 clearly teaches people are chosen for salvation through faith in the truth.
We were not "individually" chosen before the foundation of the world, but God did choose His redeemer, His Lamb of God, and therefore all those His Redeemer will redeem were chosen corporately "in Him" before the foundation of the world.
As I said every person saved is chosen for salvation, and Gentiles are saved. Thus scripture "clearly states" that Gentiles are among the elect.

 

The atonement is for who so ever would believe. And all men have the ability to believe even though not all do. The atonement is for all sin even those we have not committed yet. Past ,Present, and future.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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