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The fact that so many disagree with you from the early writing of the church proves your wrong. I lean towards the departing of the faith to be happening in the last days as people listening and believing doctrines of demons, the falling away is much more responsible for your doctrine than blaming Augustine and the early Catholic churches which was 1500 years ago which was the early church days. They had councils of many people, not just Augustine was involved.

 

The present condition of creation is not its final one; it is like a mother groaning in labor pains. The entire creation has a destiny planned by God, and longs to be fulfilled, much as believers do . Our salvation has begun—we have the Holy Spirit as a down payment—but it will not be consummated until the resurrection (the full realization of adoption in Christ, refer verse 23). Inevitably, therefore, the Christian life involves patient waiting in hope.

So if God predestined us to be resurrected, which fully happens at the adoption of our (glorified )bodies, you do know we get a totally new and different body unlike the one we have now.

Romans 8
30 Moreover, whom he predestinated, them also he called, and whom he called, them also he justified, and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Glorified means to have that resurrection glorified by God body, which happens at the Resurrection of the Just.

To be resurrected means to be embodied again and occurs after our physical death.

The wicked are also resurrected into an unglorified type of body, and they are burnt in the lake of fire.

 

But God atones, you do not. It is not up to you. If it is, you are the savior and steal God's glory.

 

Why isn't everyone saved? Did he pay for the sin of rejecting him?

 

Where does faith come from though?

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.

Acts 3:16 And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

 

Wow.... This is heresy and it is illogical. If no one is saved by Jesus' death, then He never had to die. To claim that His death does not work to save us is heresy.

Then unbelievers must go to heaven too.

I agree that His life has a great bearing on our salviation, but how are we saved by His life without His death doing anything?

The Archangel

 

Faith comes after salvation and God provides it. It is not faith if misplaced.

 

So why did Jesus die on the cross?

 

I was saved before the foundation of the world based on Christ's blood, shed for me in time. I believed as a result of this. Eternal life has no beginning or end.