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Those who understand the Biblical foundpation of Calvinism would not agree.

* Total Depravity - Ephesians 2:1-3.

* Unconditional Election - Romans 9:5-16.

* Limited Atonement - John 10:11.

* Irresistible Grace - John 6:37.

* Perseverance of the Saints - John 10:28.

[ I believe the same Holy Scriptures the 5 point Calvinist do, Only my understanding is different in sme important ways. ]

 

You said it yourself, "Sometimes what is read and heard is filtered by one's beliefs of the very words on the page, when it comes to the Bible."

 

Only it doesn't include pre-suppositions about God's word.

One should never approach His word with anything but the ability to read it and welcome whatever it says, no matter what.
His word alone should be what forms those suppositions...
Not anything outside of it.

Again, Proverbs 3:5-7.
If we reject any part of it, then it can be said that we did not receive it, agreed?

May God bless you in your studies, sir, and may we always be reminded of His great grace and mercy towards us as His children.

 

So you do not presuppose God's word is really God's word?

 

According to His word, that is what His people do...
Believe His word.

Their pre-suppositions come from Him, and He has provided everything they need to both believe it and to understand it ( 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, 1 John 2:20-27 ).

Those that are not His children do the opposite and do not believe His words.
Please see John 8:43-47.
He that is "of God" hears God's words.
That is why we should be grateful that we believe them...

Because we are His and are taught "of" Him ( Isaiah 54:13, John 6:45 ).

 

@AustinC :
Apologies for the rabbit trail, I'll sign off this thread now.

I wish you well.

 

The dead have to be Made Alive by God, as all Scripture Teaches, without exception.

 

Amen

 

atpollard, a statement such as what I have highlighted above is a denial of more than one truth in the scriptures. It is much more serious than a mild disagreement between Christians. It goes to the foundation of Christianity. 1) it denies that God has taken away sin by the sacrifice of his Son. 2) it denies that God is propitiated by the shed blood of his son. 3) it denies that he has reconciled the world through the death of his son. 4) it denies that God is not imputing sin because of the death of his son. 5) it denies that the wrath of God against sin has been poured out on his son. 6) it denies that the Spirit of God has been poured out on the world. 7) it denies that saving faith comes by hearing and believing the word of God.

Hebrews 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

This is past tense. God says he put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. You argue that he didn’t. Your conflict is first of all with the author is the scriptures.

Notice what John 3:18-20 does not say; it does not say anyone is condemned because they have not believed in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Our Lord was not trying to convince his audience of that when he spoke these words. He was asking them to believe he is the Son of God. Pay attention to the tenses of the verbs. Men must believe that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh before they can believe he can save them. John said he recorded the seven miracles that he noted in his gospel, not so they would believe he died, was buried, and rose again but that they would believe he is the Christ, the son of God and believing that might have eternal life through his name. That is what he said. I am not making it up. His disciples did not even believe he rose from the dead until it was proven to them. They did believe he was the son of God however.

John 20:30-31
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

There is no new revelation since the first century. What do you mean the Jew/gentile distinction is lost. Our doctrines are rooted in that distinction. The mysteries of God are dependent upon understanding that distinction. One could not understand the “mystery of Christ,” the theme of Paul’s letter to the Ephesians, or the mystery of the instantaneous bodily glorification of both living and dead saints in 1 Cor 15 etc. This philosophy is the reason there is a Reformed teaching of great error. You should rethink this kind of statement.

 

Could you show me , I may have missed ?

 

It doesn't say ' unable ' . it says he hid . there's a difference . if you hide from the police it means your able to be seen and be caught , otherwise why hide ? hide n seek 101 .

 

You are yet to offer any

Again no context given ,except your over arching statements which you keep tracking back to the system. Any insights as to what is going on in Acts 13 leading up to those verses. All you are doing is isolating single verses and giving your commentary on single verses assuming they mean what your claiming . If so you would be able to offer with the surrounding verses validity to your assertions . I've already demonstrated my reasoning from the context for Acts 13 . I hear you doing this " well this one isoloated verse matches this one isolated verse over hear , and therefore agrees with my system " Oh and God bless, I guess we are not in agreement, byeeeeeee " . ???

 

Erm that's not context that's just isolated verses . ? my theory is that Calvinsm doesn't really deal with context ,so long as it fits the paradigm . Your proving the case here sadly . Acts 13 ? any insights into the context how you arrive at your conclusion. ? I know what the system teaches , inside out ,that's why I'm hoping you haven't just done the same thing?

 

Genesis 6.14
Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
"
To me it's very plain.
The verse says what it says, and I believe the words, don't you ? " That's why I'm building my Ark as we speak . See how we can mess things up ?
Acts 13 is a historical narrative of what was going on ,so no its not ' declaritive 'at all .
////For example, the context of Acts of the Apostles 13:48 is declarative and fits perfectly with what was already revealed in John 6:32-65 with Jesus own words, in Acts chapter 2 and other chapters in the book of Acts.////
With respect this would not pass in any children s bible study would it ? come on .
How do you arrive at your conclusion within Acts 13 ? that should be easy . its a big chapter after all .

 

Twice you have posted what you should know is false.
Pay no attention to this fount of falsehood, who turns an effort into an accomplishment. Note that what has been done to truth and recognize Calvinism provided his model.