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No eternal Justification, as all saved must receive it still now!

 

You believe that the elect are saved regardless if they receive Jesus as Lord?

 

Can you expound on this?

 

You are describing a "married bachelor" ... something that cannot exist because it is a self-contradiction.

The elect are the elect because they are chosen by the Father to be saved through and in the Son. So being "elect" means that the Father has given you to the Son, who gives you eternal life. That is true whether you confess on your deathbed or die at 3 days old.

 

By Grace Alone, through Faith Alone, in Christ Alone

 

yes, but eternal Justification teaches that regardless if they receive Jesus as Lord while living, shall be saved due to being one of His own!

 

Is Moses saved?
Was Moses saved because he saw Jesus at the mount of Transfiguration, or before that?

Somehow, never meeting Jesus face to face in life does not seem to have been an issue for God during the OT. God dealt with it. I do not believe that God saved them without Jesus as Lord, but I think that God was not stripped of his power to save by times and circumstances.

As for a hypothetical person who dies before receiving Jesus but should have ... who am I to tell God what is possible or impossible for Him. God said He chooses (so I believe Him). God said Jesus is the only door to the Father (so I believe Him). God saved the OT saints before they met Jesus (so apparently He can). [shrug]

 

Nope, on the 'atonement saves'.

Negative on "Even if you never hear the gospel",

Not relevant, one way or the other: "The Westminster agrees to this" (whether it does or not).

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The is 'Hardshellism', correct? That's what it always has been.

And something you are proud of, right?, or religiously shammed over?, because that's all it is.

100% denial of a couple of dozen Good Doctrines and Jesus' Atonement.

There must be a Scripture or two that can be warped out of the weakness of the flesh and influence of Satan that tempts someone to hang onto "Don't tell ANYONE JESUS is The SAVIOR".

Who cares what they are?

If there is no conversion experience, there is no testimony of Salvation.

This is "another gospel" and they shouldn't feel THAT bad about it, there are hundreds of various "false gospels".

This one just happens to be, "The gospel is not important; look at me, I didn't need it".

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I hate these Evil works.

 

nooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

Brother, you need to wake up and smell the kool-aid.

What he is saying is the logical end point of Calvinism.

They don't need to receive Christ because they are already elect before receiving him.

You just haven't followed your Calvinism all the way through yet.

Vigorously deny to yourself what I just said, just do me a favour and remember it some time down the line.

 

That position would be Hyper Calvinism, and is wrong theology!

 

I am referring to those born after time of Jesus, as those now under the new Covenant between God and mankind!

 

I can't agree to this (not that you need me to...). Romans 10 asks, "How will they hear without a preacher?" and the implied answer by the Greek is "They won't."

What you are describing here is, essentially, a square circle. If Christ has died for someone, God will see to it that the gospel gets to them.

The Archangel

 

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The Archangel

 

He died for all.

 

Sounds like Dort was afraid of the natives and came up with this weak idea of limited atonement for fear of head shrinking.

 

Chosen for what ? Chosen to do what?