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Calvinism Misrepresents the Meaning of Death

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JD731, Sep 29, 2020.

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    The fall is not a Calvinist issue. I get that you think everything is but it isn't. As far as spiritually dead, so are you telling me Adam was spiritually alive after the fall?
     
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    So then you deny the Trinity?
     
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    Romans 1:18-32.
    Romans 5.
     
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    LOL!
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    The Bible doesn't say he died Spiritually you have no proof he did.You sure have a lot of non biblical beliefs.
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    That is a serious question. You said, "if the words aren't there then it isn't so" well the word Trinity is not found in Scripture. Do you deny the Trinity?
     
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    Do you believe in the Trinity?
     
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    The word trinity isn't in scripture is it.
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    Why are you dodging the question? Do you deny the Trinity? This is a simple yes or no question.
     
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    Hog wash scripture never even once indicates such a thing.
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    What did it mean that he was dead for 3 days if it was the Spirit who quickened him afterward? Do you teach that he was really dead for three days? Was he totally depraved in that condition, whatever his condition that you are defining by your theology?
     
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    And people can go around typing out His name with out a Capitol J. The ultimate disrespect for our God.
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    I must be telling you that because there is no scripture that says Adam was ever dead Spiritually. You loose David I suppose you'll never learn .
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    Sure there is. Ephesians 2.
     
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    That is all the way, from genesis to revelation!
     
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    His body had physically died, but he was alive as the God man!
     
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    Why the need for a savior then now?
     
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    None of those passages state that we are actually dead in our sin.
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    Yet He descended into the lower parts of the Earth commonly known a Hell
    He was separated from God the Father which is why He asked why His Father had forsaken Him. That is the description of Spiritual death.
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