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I have never said we become righteous by our law keeping.Could you post anywhere where I said that?

 

No... it is quite relevant.
Even now after the cross many perish in the same condition as the world of the ungodly did

 

Again Barry, you are perhaps parroting something you heard on a podcast, but Can you show anyone who denies grace is the basis of salvation.
I do not think you can articulate the Lordship teaching, or link to a person saying that it is works based

 

You are avoiding the real issue.
The World of the ungodly perished what law did they break that brought God's displeasure on them where he had to destroy them he didn't just destroy them for no reason?

 

All men are truth suppressors and guilty that is why the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all unrighteousness and ungodliness of men all of Romans one teaches that period it is God's mercy alone that makes the difference.

 

Context. (and just FYI you quoted Romans 5:13, not Romans 5:12)

[Rom 5:12-14 NASB] 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

... There is a law that says "Thou shall not murder", which Cain violated. Yet God did not sentence Cain to death under the Law of Moses because violations of that Law were not imputed against those that sinned. However, Verses 12-14 clearly state that death, the PENALTY FOR SIN, was still held against all men because all men still sinned. All men sinned even without the imputed sin of their violation of the Law of Moses given to Israel.

Romans 1 makes clear that there is a LAW more fundamental than that given to the patriarchs that all men ... including those that have never heard of the patriarchs ... are held guilty of violating. The Law innate in existence that a creation is obligated to honor its creator. You do not NEED a law to tell you that you did not create yourself ... that is self-evident. So failure to honor who and what you are is a violation of your very reason for being. That requires no Law to bring condemnation, as John 3:18 says ... one stands already condemned because the creation has refused its purpose.

Do we need a Law to condemn SALT that refuses to be salty?
Do we need a Law that condemns a SUN that refuses to shine?

There have always only been two types of people ... those that fulfill the purpose for which man was created (to worship and obey God) and those that do not. Like Salt that is salty, one is fit for the purpose for which it was created, and like salt that has lost its saltiness, the other is worthless and fit for nothing except being discarded. That is all that matters as far as God, the Law and His people are concerned.

 

Yes


Joy unspeakable full of glory

 

Hopefully, not too much of the following is redundant, as I am responding only to the OP and not anything claimed later.

1) What verse says our sins (specific to our individual selves) were "paid" for? I do not think any verse says or suggests any such thing.

2) Christ paid the ransom required for all humankind to provide the opportunity for redemption for all humankind. (1 Timothy 2:6)

3) When God gives an individual to Christ, they are transferred from the realm of darkness into the kingdom of His Son, where they undergo the washing of regeneration which removes their sin burden, what God held against them. (John 6:37, Colossians 1:13, Titus 3:5)

4) Thus Christ made provision for the removal of our specific sins, past present and future, but an individual only has his or sin burden removed, if God places them into Christ. (Hebrews 7:27)

5) In summary, Christ died once for all , meaning for all the sins, past, present, and future, of all people, whether to be saved or never to be saved, but only those God places into Christ receive the reconciliation provided by Christ's sacrifice.

Sin is any thought or action that differs from the will of God for that individual. Thus if a person, who is not under the Law, and is totally ignorant of the Law, does something that is not the will of God for that individual, that is a sin, just not a sin like Adam's sin, who knew God's will and did otherwise. Romans 5:14

Again, I do not know which verse says God poured our His wrath for our sins, on Christ. Christ did rescue those placed into Him from God's wrath due them for their sins. Think of Christ as a propitiatory shelter, or wrath shield, those not in Christ abide with God's wrath upon them, those in Christ have no wrath upon them. John 3:36, 1 Thessalonians 1:10)

Not when we believed, but when God on the basis of crediting our faith as righteousness, placed us individually into Christ, were we "made righteous" as a new creation. (Romans 5:19)

 

I know of no one who teaches a works based salvation who knows Jesus as Lord.

 

Any truth can be abused by someone, especially in trying to live it out by a legal standard, rather than grace.That does not negate the truth of Jesus as Lord.