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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, Dec 6, 2020.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Yet another Calvinist posting the opposite of Calvinism. According to Calvinism, some are bound for heaven even before their creation.

    Calvinism is as bogus as a three dollar bill, that is why it must be defended by disinformation.
     
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    That would be when all sins were paid for and forgiven for his own!
     
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    Historical premill was held by many Calvinists, but Amil dominant viewpoint.
     
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    Those would be Hyper Calvinists, primitive Baptists!
     
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    Prove it that men were saved with out Christ in the old testiment.
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    Actually you're a hyper Calvinist.
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  7. Yeshua1

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    I posted that all sinners have been saved same way, right?
     
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    Nope, as do not hold to eternal justification, and do hold to need to have Gospel given to all!
     
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    I do read my Bible every day but you ignore it's teachings. How was it that Abraham was declared righteous? What God had said up to that point was all Abraham had to go by. He didn't know about Christ. Before Christ the Law taught men how to be righteous. There was no sacrifice by man that could save them. If men could of been saved before Christ. Then Christ dying on the cross was not necessary.
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    Prove it that men were saved by Christ before Christ came 2000 years ago.
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    Did God justify by them keeping the Law, oy by faith in the coming Messiah?
     
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    nope this is not true because you can't prove it with scripture. I know you believe it but then you believe in fantasy. You make up what you believe.
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    Paul stated that by Law NO flesh shall be justified before God, wrong?
     
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    Doesn't your Bible program work? Prove it with scripture. You really need to post scripture supporting your beliefs.
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    Wow again.

    You say this:
    " The Law of Moses before Christ it was all man had to become righteous"

    Ignoring this:
    21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nought. Gal 2

    21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could make alive, verily righteousness would have been of the law. Gal 3

    Go read your Bible MB, not the Scofield notes, and stop ignoring it's teaching.
     
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    So you believe that God's elect are born destined to Hell yet also born righteous as their sins were forgiven long before they were born?
     
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    Nope, believe that all humans are born as sinners, on their way to Hell, but that God has intervened to make sure His own will get on that narrow pathway to eternal life!
     
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    Most parasitical hypocrites try to make others seem ignorant, but your ignorance shows through,
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    So you believe that I was born a sinner, but that I had no sin credited to me because all of my sins were forgiven before I was born, but I'm still (although forgiven) fated to Hell until I was born again?
     
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    No, believe that God chose to save me out of my lost state, but that I still must be born again in order to receive the forgiveness of sins provided for me at the Cross!
     
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