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A Tale of Two Calvinisms

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Van

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Per the Bible, we ALL are bound for hell unless God intervenes!
Yet another Calvinist posting the opposite of Calvinism. According to Calvinism, some are bound for heaven even before their creation.

Calvinism is as bogus as a three dollar bill, that is why it must be defended by disinformation.
 

Yeshua1

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Personally, I would have used New Testament language about the purpose of the Law. Where Scofield really went wrong is in teaching a pre-tribulation rapture, a doctrine now mostly advanced in Evangelical and Fundamentalist circles so that I infer, perhaps incorrectly, that it has been added to Calvinism.

I think of myself as a so-called mild Calvinist, meaning that I believe that God said that “whosoever” could be saved. The book of common prayer used to repeat the idea of Ezekiel 33:11 wherein God says that He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked but that the wicked turn from his way and live.
Historical premill was held by many Calvinists, but Amil dominant viewpoint.
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another Calvinist posting the opposite of Calvinism. According to Calvinism, some are bound for heaven even before their creation.

Calvinism is as bogus as a three dollar bill, that is why it must be defended by disinformation.
Those would be Hyper Calvinists, primitive Baptists!
 

MB

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Wow. So you agree with MB, " The Law of Moses before Christ it was all man had to become righteous"?

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It appears that Soteriology also becomes a HUGE sticking point if this is what you dispies believe.
I do read my Bible every day but you ignore it's teachings. How was it that Abraham was declared righteous? What God had said up to that point was all Abraham had to go by. He didn't know about Christ. Before Christ the Law taught men how to be righteous. There was no sacrifice by man that could save them. If men could of been saved before Christ. Then Christ dying on the cross was not necessary.
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MB

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Did God justify by them keeping the Law, oy by faith in the coming Messiah?
nope this is not true because you can't prove it with scripture. I know you believe it but then you believe in fantasy. You make up what you believe.
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Yeshua1

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nope this is not true because you can't prove it with scripture. I know you believe it but then you believe in fantasy. You make up what you believe.
MB
Paul stated that by Law NO flesh shall be justified before God, wrong?
 

kyredneck

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I do read my Bible every day but you ignore it's teachings.

Wow again.

You say this:
" The Law of Moses before Christ it was all man had to become righteous"

Ignoring this:
21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nought. Gal 2

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could make alive, verily righteousness would have been of the law. Gal 3

Go read your Bible MB, not the Scofield notes, and stop ignoring it's teaching.
 

JonC

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That would be when all sins were paid for and forgiven for his own!
So you believe that God's elect are born destined to Hell yet also born righteous as their sins were forgiven long before they were born?
 

Yeshua1

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So you believe that God's elect are born destined to Hell yet also born righteous as their sins were forgiven long before they were born?

So you believe that God's elect are born destined to Hell yet also born righteous as their sins were forgiven long before they were born?
Nope, believe that all humans are born as sinners, on their way to Hell, but that God has intervened to make sure His own will get on that narrow pathway to eternal life!
 

MB

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Wow again.

You say this:
" The Law of Moses before Christ it was all man had to become righteous"

Ignoring this:
21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nought. Gal 2

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could make alive, verily righteousness would have been of the law. Gal 3
Most parasitical hypocrites try to make others seem ignorant, but your ignorance shows through,
MB
 

JonC

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Nope, believe that all humans are born as sinners, on their way to Hell, but that God has intervened to make sure His own will get on that narrow pathway to eternal life!
So you believe that I was born a sinner, but that I had no sin credited to me because all of my sins were forgiven before I was born, but I'm still (although forgiven) fated to Hell until I was born again?
 

Yeshua1

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So you believe that I was born a sinner, but that I had no sin credited to me because all of my sins were forgiven before I was born, but I'm still (although forgiven) fated to Hell until I was born again?
No, believe that God chose to save me out of my lost state, but that I still must be born again in order to receive the forgiveness of sins provided for me at the Cross!
 
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