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  1. RipponRedeaux

    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Verses 6 through 8. Read them and explain them.
     
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    Psalm 8:5-6 Nas 1995
    What is man that You e]">[e]take thought of him,
    And the son of man that You care for him?
    5 Yet You have made him a little lower than f]">[f]God,
    And You crown him with glory and majesty!
    6 You make him to rule over the works of Your hands;
    You have put all things under his feet,
     
    #102 Yeshua1, Oct 22, 2021
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    I said verses 6 -8. How many more times do I have to repeat the same thing for you to grasp it?
     
    #103 RipponRedeaux, Oct 22, 2021
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    Please tell me how son of man there is not speaking to the coming Christ?
     
    #104 Yeshua1, Oct 22, 2021
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    In verses 6 to 8 the Son of man is not referenced. There is no mention at all.
     
    #105 RipponRedeaux, Oct 22, 2021
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    That is what I was trying to say.
     
    #106 Squire Robertsson, Oct 22, 2021
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    There is in the context before that though!
     
    #107 Yeshua1, Oct 22, 2021
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    Will you please deal with verses 6 to 8 of Psalm 8?
     
    #108 RipponRedeaux, Oct 22, 2021
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    what are you concerned about there?
     
    #109 Yeshua1, Oct 22, 2021
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    Hey, pay attention.
     
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    Yes, please.
     
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    From my post #101.
     
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    Just do it.
     
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    From my post #108. It's like pulling teeth for you to answer a simple question.
     
    #114 RipponRedeaux, Oct 22, 2021
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    Is the collection done by passing a container a tradition or is it a scripture foundational presentation?

    My personal opinion is that the collection of the early church must have been similar to that done in the Jerusalem temple, where folks put their “tithe” into some general centrally located container as seen in the account of the widows mite.

    However, in the gentile “gathering” was apparently stored by some means for special and specific use such as missionary support or gift to the Jerusalem church.

    Also, the gentile church was not subject to a tithe, but were to give as they could and by the Lord’s impulse within each believer.

    When then did the “offering plate(s)” become part of the “worship” service and is it tradition or actually based upon Scripture?
     
    #116 agedman, Oct 26, 2021
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    Tradition, as many congregations have a box at the back for offerings. Some use bags to collect the funds so open plates of cash aren't seen.
     
    #117 Squire Robertsson, Oct 26, 2021
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    Yes, indeed it does! It describes man's dominion over all the creatures of the earth. Both Psalm 8:6-8 and Genesis 1:26 are referencing the very same thing. Humanity is the subject, not Christ. God have man the authority to subdue the world of earth's creatures.
    Y-1 studiously avoided my repeated pleas to explain Ps. 8:6-8. He preferred to run away from the text rather than answering. But 37818, you came to his rescue. Thank you.

    And again, going back to Psalm 8. There is no break between verses 4 to 5 and 6-8. All of those verses are at one dealing with mankind --not Christ, because this is not a Messianic Psalm. There are about 16 Psalms that are indeed Messianic, number 22 being the most well-known. And there are Psalms in which particular verses are Messianic. However, Psalm 8 is uniformly dealing with mankind.
     
    #118 RipponRedeaux, Oct 27, 2021
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    Our IFB church was "traditional" until the pandemic arrived. After 3 months of virtual "attendance" - pastor preaching to a camera - we returned to in-person services with the offering plate on a back table. That remains the practice and donations have been similar to those when the plates were being passed. God is good.
     
    #119 OnlyaSinner, Oct 27, 2021
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    Except that it narrows down to the specific Son of man, the One of Daniel prophesy!
     
    #120 Yeshua1, Oct 27, 2021
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