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Yeshua1

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RipponRedeaux said:
Verses 6 through 8. Read them and explain them.
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Psalm 8:5-6 Nas 1995
What is man that You e]">[e]take thought of him,
And the son of man that You care for him?
5 Yet You have made him a little lower than f]">[f]God,
And You crown him with glory and majesty!
6 You make him to rule over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet,
 
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RipponRedeaux

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RipponRedeaux said:
the latest question I posed for you was concerning Psalm 8. Do verses 6 to 8 refer to Christ or mankind? It is either one or the other. You could rev up the coal fires of your mind by sorting out your thoughts. "I believe it refers to ______, because____ ____ ____."
But you never do that.

You don't do homework. You rely on others and never buckle down to do it yourself. Quote the verses and come up with something of substance. Merely repeating a stock phrase does not cut it.
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Hey, pay attention.
 
agedman

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Is the collection done by passing a container a tradition or is it a scripture foundational presentation?

My personal opinion is that the collection of the early church must have been similar to that done in the Jerusalem temple, where folks put their “tithe” into some general centrally located container as seen in the account of the widows mite.

However, in the gentile “gathering” was apparently stored by some means for special and specific use such as missionary support or gift to the Jerusalem church.

Also, the gentile church was not subject to a tithe, but were to give as they could and by the Lord’s impulse within each believer.

When then did the “offering plate(s)” become part of the “worship” service and is it tradition or actually based upon Scripture?
 
Squire Robertsson

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Tradition, as many congregations have a box at the back for offerings. Some use bags to collect the funds so open plates of cash aren't seen.
 
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RipponRedeaux

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37818 said:
Psalms 8:4-8 refers to Genesis 1:26.
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Yes, indeed it does! It describes man's dominion over all the creatures of the earth. Both Psalm 8:6-8 and Genesis 1:26 are referencing the very same thing. Humanity is the subject, not Christ. God have man the authority to subdue the world of earth's creatures.
Y-1 studiously avoided my repeated pleas to explain Ps. 8:6-8. He preferred to run away from the text rather than answering. But 37818, you came to his rescue. Thank you.

And again, going back to Psalm 8. There is no break between verses 4 to 5 and 6-8. All of those verses are at one dealing with mankind --not Christ, because this is not a Messianic Psalm. There are about 16 Psalms that are indeed Messianic, number 22 being the most well-known. And there are Psalms in which particular verses are Messianic. However, Psalm 8 is uniformly dealing with mankind.
 
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OnlyaSinner

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Squire Robertsson said:
Tradition, as many congregations have a box at the back for offerings. Some use bags to collect the funds so open plates of cash aren't seen.
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Our IFB church was "traditional" until the pandemic arrived. After 3 months of virtual "attendance" - pastor preaching to a camera - we returned to in-person services with the offering plate on a back table. That remains the practice and donations have been similar to those when the plates were being passed. God is good.
 
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Yeshua1

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RipponRedeaux said:
Yes, indeed it does! It describes man's dominion over all the creatures of the earth. Both Psalm 8:6-8 and Genesis 1:26 are referencing the very same thing. Humanity is the subject, not Christ. God have man the authority to subdue the world of earth's creatures.
Y-1 studiously avoided my repeated pleas to explain Ps. 8:6-8. He preferred to run away from the text rather than answering. But 37818, you came to his rescue. Thank you.

And again, going back to Psalm 8. There is no break between verses 4 to 5 and 6-8. All of those verses are at one dealing with mankind --not Christ, because this is not a Messianic Psalm. There are about 16 Psalms that are indeed Messianic, number 22 being the most well-known. And there are Psalms in which particular verses are Messianic. However, Psalm 8 is uniformly dealing with mankind.
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Except that it narrows down to the specific Son of man, the One of Daniel prophesy!
 
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