Featured Is Saving Faith A Gift?

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” John 4:22 (KJV 1900) Many became Jews in OT times, and we were grafted into Israel as believers in Christ.

“Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.” John 2:23–25 (KJV 1900)

 

Now both saved jews and Gentiles in Spiritual Israel, with both saved by same Lord Jesus!

 

He died for those he intended to get saved!

 

Believers in Christ in the OT?

 

You seem to misunderstand what "salvation is of the Jews" means.
It means that the Promised Redeemer is from the line of Israel. Those who had faith in the Promised One were justified by that faith.
Romans 4:3-16 best expresses this truth.
For the Scriptures tell us, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” When people work, their wages are not a gift, but something they have earned. But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners. David also spoke of this when he described the happiness of those who are declared righteous without working for it: “Oh, what joy for those whose disobedience is forgiven, whose sins are put out of sight. Yes, what joy for those whose record the Lord has cleared of sin.” Now, is this blessing only for the Jews, or is it also for uncircumcised Gentiles? Well, we have been saying that Abraham was counted as righteous by God because of his faith. But how did this happen? Was he counted as righteous only after he was circumcised, or was it before he was circumcised? Clearly, God accepted Abraham before he was circumcised! Circumcision was a sign that Abraham already had faith and that God had already accepted him and declared him to be righteous—even before he was circumcised. So Abraham is the spiritual father of those who have faith but have not been circumcised. They are counted as righteous because of their faith. And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, but only if they have the same kind of faith Abraham had before he was circumcised. Clearly, God’s promise to give the whole earth to Abraham and his descendants was based not on his obedience to God’s law, but on a right relationship with God that comes by faith. If God’s promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have no law to break!) So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe.

 

Only in your mind is it insincere. Moreso, you dare judge God and tell him he is a liar when he openly tells you of his election. Exactly how do you expect to stand before our King when you have called Him insincere in his word.
sbg, just because your finite mind cannot comprehend God's desire and God's elective grace, it does not therefore make God insincere. It does, however, make you ignorant of God's work in redemption.
More than enough scripture has been provided to you. At this point you have obstinantly stuck your feet in the ground and even dare to call your King insincere.
May God have mercy on you.

 

All of the gentile converts became members of Israel, even today. So what's your beef?

 

No they didn't. None of us are bound under the Mosaic Covenant. That covenant is done, no more. We are baptized into the New Covenant by the Holy Spirit.
My beef is that you sound like you have bought in to a Hebrew cult that teaches Christians are actually one of the twelve tribes of Israel.
I provided scripture that clearly shows your assertion is not established in the Church.

 

Have you learned that Jesus is Israel revealed in the NT? And that the Church, His body, is also Israel? The disenfranchised Jews are in fact gentiles with only Jewish customs and a false Judaism?

 

No sir. You directly questioned God and what he says in Romans 9. You can't escape that. How dare you!

 

One of us is dead wrong!
I M pretty sure I know who it is,lol
you do a recap and blame God again.
You suggest I do not understand.
However, when we examine solid confessional teaching, the views I post are found there in scripture, yours....not so much

 

SBG. I just was on the Evangelical Arminian website. They even say that faith is a gift and a man won't have faith if left to himself. I think you are not just going against Calvinists but Arminian theology too. I'll look for the Pelagian website and then check back in.