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WHO says no covid travel restrictions any more

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by dad2, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. JonC

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    It is a conspiracy. Saying people are suing does not change that fact. And neither does providing a bunch of unrelated Bible verses.
     
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    I Factchecked this about Pfizer

    Not a conspiracy or a theory!

    Guilty
     
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    Thousands of legal cases show us plenty. Believing liars and murderers is something there is a bunch of verses about.

    Example:
    Isaiah 59:7 Their feet run to evil, and they are swift to shed innocent blood; their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; desolation and destruction are in their highways.

    We should despise advice from those frauds and murderers that shed innocent blood.
     
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  4. JonC

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    There are thousands of legal case against Christian organizations for being Christian.

    Thankfully God has used these pharmaceutical companies to provide vaccines and medications (whether covid vaccines, measles vaccines, polio vaccines, rabies vaccines, rubella vaccines...) that have saved the lives of millions.
     
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    Or rather taken the lives of millions and left others injured for life. Big Pharma is wicked. Can't you tell by now?
     
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    What does that have to do with injured people suing a company that is found guilty of fraud. We are not guilty.

    Someone used them. Not sure I blame God for mass murdering, lying frauds and their potions that have already killed and injured untold multitudes. I also am not sure why any professing Christians would try to justify these overtly wicked companies, or the psycho politicians that are in their back pocket who are on record as supporting child sacrifices.
     
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    Isaiah 29:9-11 Astonish yourselves and be astonished; blind yourselves and be blind! Be drunk, but not with wine; stagger, but not with strong drink! For the Lord has poured out upon you a spirit of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes (the prophets), and covered your heads (the seers). And the vision of all this has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed. When men give it to one who can read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.”
     
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    Except this has not, as of yet, occurred. This is what I mean by conspiracy theory.
     
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    What did you think they were in thousands of cases for? That has occurred. And the toll for covid vaccine injury and death, though grossly under reported by most standards is still very high.
     
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    If we took the VAERS data as declaring the effect is caused by the vaccine (which is wrong, but hypocritically) then you would have a .0022% chance (.000022 rate) of such effects with vaccines.

    Since December 2020, more than 469 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in the U.S., and VAERS has received 10,483 reports of death (0.0022%), according to the CDC. (Numbers as of Dec. 29, 2021.)

    However, that statistic offers no insight into the cause of death for those people. If a 90-year-old nursing home resident got the vaccine and then died days, weeks or even months later of another ailment, the resident’s death would be reported to VAERS.

    Opponents of vaccination use the VAERS numbers in statements that suggest cause-and-effect conclusions. This misinformation then influences some people not to be vaccinated.

    In this case, the numbers are correct, but the presumed conclusions are not.

    Stevan Whitt, MD, an infectious disease doctor and chief clinical officer at MU Health Care, gets questions about these claims regularly, and he wants people to have the right information.

    “This intentional misrepresentation is a powerful tactic to sow confusion among large groups of people,” Whitt said.

    Scary Reports of Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccination Aren’t What They Seem
     
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    Government data: COVID infections, deaths soar after vaccination
    " ..you’ll see in America, starting in quarter two of the year 2021 (when the vaccines started), the mortalities started to rise, and it rose from 120% above normal to 140% above normal, and it’s far exceeded the death rates in 2020. The difference in 2020 and 2021, we had covid in both years. In 2021, we had the vaccines. They know the amount of deaths they are reporting cannot be explained by Covid. . . . There is something else driving a huge and extremely terrifying mortality signal in the U.S. population. To think that it is anything but the vaccines, if we get this wrong and if you keep saying they are safe, that line which is already in a significant and steep incline will continue the more we boost and the more we vaccinate. . . . This has to stop. We have to stop, people are dying.”

    Meanwhile, the captured regulatory agencies like the CDC and FDA are trashing and cutting off proven scientific cures for Covid such as Ivermectin. Dr. Kory says Ivermectin has been proven effective in defeating Covid infections, and he says, “It is “one of the safest drugs ever brought to market.” Dr. Kory also says the so-called experimental vaccines “are not safe and not effective.” So, why do government agencies push them anyway? Dr. Kory says, “I have had a front row seat to see this.” . . . And he goes on to say government agencies are suffering from “regulatory capture” by big Pharma. Meaning, the FDA and CDC push ineffective and dangerous vaccines so Big Pharma can make money off them, while disregarding cheaper, safer and more effective drugs like Ivermectin. Dr Kory gives a real-world example during the pandemic and explains, “Prescriptions in this country (for Ivermectin) in August were hitting 90,000 per week. So many doctors were using it for Covid that it spooked the pharmaceutical companies. . . . In response to the massive uptake in the use of Ivermectin by physicians with prescriptions and pharmacists filling them, the CDC went on the attack. They sent a bulletin to every state department of health which was full of propaganda and misinformation screaming the FDA has not approved Ivermectin (for treating Covid) and it’s not a proven drug, and it’s dangerous and there are overdoses and all of these things that were false. It went to all state departments of health. But guess what happened next? The medical boards and the pharmacy boards started sending that to every licensed physician and pharmacist in the land. The average physician and pharmacist, I am sorry to say this, is not well read. They are not keeping up with data. They are overwhelmed and they are easily influenced. That’s why in this country you have a war between the physicians that know that Ivermectin is effective . . . and are at war with the pharmacies. A huge proportion of pharmacists will refuse to fill a decades-old safe drug for Covid because they have been threatened and manipulated by their boards. They are afraid to lose their licenses. It all smoke. It’s all B.S. because you cannot lose your license for use of a safe drug. . . . We need our doctors to do doctoring, and we need our pharmacists to do pharmacy and stop being influenced by propaganda by pharmaceutical companies who don’t want you to use this drug. We have to stand up, and we have to resist on behalf of our patients. We are finding that with compounding pharmacies and small pharmacies we can still get access (to Ivermectin), but it is a battle and you do have to navigate.”

    Former Pfizer VP Dr. Michael Yeadon said this week, “Max vaccination is leading to mass death.” Dr. Kory agrees and explains, “It’s not only data from a life insurance company that came out this week that is based on CDC data that can’t be explained by Covid alone, there are huge increases of dying in this country this year. . . . They have done huge analysis of the European mortality data as well as the U.S. mortality data and they controlled for vaccination status. They found that for every age range that they looked at, the all-cause mortality of the vaccinated were increased over the unvaccinated. All-cause mortality and that means that you are more likely to die of something if you are vaccinated. . . . All-cause mortality are coming out of actual databases by credible scientists. You have life insurance companies showing the data, and you have our own federal government showing unexplained large rises in dying. . . . Don’t you think a good scientific question and a good hypothesis to test would be ‘Could these be the vaccines?’ The answer is ‘the vaccines,’ and I cannot find a better fit to answering that hypothesis than that, it’s this mass explosion of this vaccination policy with single, double and booster shots. It’s going like wildfire through the population. If the mortality of the vaccinated is higher than the unvaccinated, you have the data that you can safely and confidently conclude the vaccines are associated with and causing death.”

    In closing, Dr. Kory says, “What has happened in the last month or so is the data for adverse reactions and effects are no longer hidden and suppressed. They are coming out on servers . . . and actuarial tables.”

    Huge Number of Vax Deaths & It’s Getting Worse – Dr. Pierre Kory | Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog

    Anyhow, unless the VAERS reporting was efficiently carried out in hospitals (they are short staffed) and elsewhere there is no use citing their numbers.
    There are also insiders who have first hand experience and have reported that the system of reporting is less than a joke.

    example:
    "Hospital physician’s assistant Deborah Conrad has come forward with her testimony of the massive amount of COVID vaccine Adverse Events not being reported by hospitals. She recorded a call with her hospital’s president that reveals the shocking truth."
    Infowars Article

    I also explained to you why the prime agents for promoting the vaccine agenda cannot and should not be believed. I also provided sources showing how they were deeply involved in child sacrifices (killing unborn babies)

    Your continued latching onto their teachings from their financed fanciful fact fudging fable factories can no longer be done under the cover of holiness or honesty.
     
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    I dismiss these articles and go straight for the actual source (linked in the article).

    • 78.3% of hospitalized cases (10,293/13,144) since Jan 1, 2021 were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks from the first dose immunization date

    • 74% of COVID-19 deaths (1,364/1,844) since Jan 1, 2021 were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks from the first dose immunization date
    COVID-19 Alberta statistics

    So basically the data shows that the fully vaccinated make up about 25% of those who died from covid and about 21% of thise who ate hospitalized due to covid.

    And you interpret this to mean the vaccines don't work?
     
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    Ontario: Majority of COVID ICU Admissions are Fully Vaccinated

    There are 2 sides and each has articles, virologists, doctors, scientists, media and etc on their side.
    I showed how the prime forces of the one side are gung ho child sacrifice supporting and promoting. I don't need anything else. You are welcome to cast your lot with them. Untold thousands have been killed from the vaccines, that is known by all sides. One side is pushing to vax children, and no good reason exists, that is clear. One side is riddled with child murder supporters, that is undeniable. One side has testing by drug companies that have been involved in legal cases for fraud and injuring people and covering it up, we know this. Life saving treatments have been vilified and suppressed as has been clear data and facts by one side, that is known. So much so that some voices are crying out that all of those who died without having been offered such treatments were murdered. The big Dr in the US hired to champion the vaccine agenda has been shown to have lied under oath. The big voice in Canada is a champion of causes that are Satanic. It is not a health issue any more if it ever was. It is an issue of tyranny and oppression and suppression of truth. When drug companies were given protection against the harm they would cause that should have told us something. When testing was done by them, that should have told us something. When they insisted on hiding the results for many many decades rather than being honest and transparent, that should have told us something. When they funded politicians and media and etc that should have told us something.When we see that way stats were done, that should have told us something. When tested and recommended life saving treatments were denied and attacked resulting in multitudes dying, that should have told us something. When voices and people were censored and character assassinated that should have told us something. When children were targeted for unneeded vaccinations that should have told us something. When the chief voices for the vaccine agenda are the same voices clamouring for mass murder of babies and other unspeakable evils, that should tell us something. When some people still justify the wicked after all this and a lot more, that does tell me something.
     
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    That may be. But only one true side.
     
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    Not necessary - actually A) both sides could be wrong, B) each side could partially be correct.......
     
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    In theory, sure. Maybe Hitler wasn't all bad?
     
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    You are manuplating data.

    Ontario does report that 3,448 people are hospitalized with COVID, and 505 in the ICU. Among the ICU cases for which vaccination status was reported as of Jan. 12, 157 were unvaccinated, 19 were partially vaccinated and 167 were fully vaccinated.

    What you fail to highlight is the fact that less than 13% of the population is unvaccinated. This means the unvacvinated are the highest risk category.

    Also, at Toronto General, which cares for the sickest COVID-19 patients, 70 per cent in the intensive care unit are not vaccinated.
     
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    To clarify, @dad2

    What you are trying to make me believe is 176 out of 1,800,000 is less than 167 out of 12,700,000.

    Or that .01% chance of being hospitalized (unvaccinated) is greater than a .001% chance (vaccinated).
     
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    The article said "
    Fully vaccinated (137) now outnumber unvaccinated people (123) in ICU admissions for COVID19"

    Ontario: Majority of COVID ICU Admissions are Fully Vaccinated

    Now how many of those have other conditions for which they may have been admitted to greater care, I do not know. How many may have been admitted because of vaccine reactions and who also happened to test positive for covid, so were registered as a covid admission, we don't know. What they do say that I found interesting was that the majority of those admitted are vaxxed. So what good does the shots do? I hear many places are begging people with covid to work anyhow! The symptoms are getting milder these days. So if the unvaxxed come to a hospital and then get it from staff, what is that registered as?! Of those in the ICU how many are there strictly because of genuine covid symptoms alone? So we don't really have all the numbers. The number of vaxxed being the majority seems to be a genuine number. The actual story of those in intensive care I don't think we know.
     
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