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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Revmitchell, Feb 16, 2022.

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  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST OUR NATURE! NOBODY seeks after God.
     
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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    Sure but if you are already predestined to salvation before the foundation of the world, a very simple CALL will no doubt suffice.

    You guys make it up as you go along :Laugh
     
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    Don’t see any connection to “making God a liar” when we point out scripture that every person on the planet is already condemned because they rejected God’s revelation found in creation.

    So simple a child could understand, unless you are an adult making childlike arguments,

    Peace to you
     
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    Did you DRAG and FORCE your wife to be to the Church to marry you :eek:
     
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    Ever and anon the cry of the noncalvinist is, why doth He yet find fault?

    Romans 9:19
     
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    Dude I find FAULT with your system and NOT the Lord.

    Can you understand that???
     
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    I will not pursue it further or farther, because your non answer reveals that Calvinism has no answer.
     
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    So now you are telling God how he works? That's pretty arrogant.
     
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    Except it isn't our system, we are quoting Scripture. Do you understand that?
     
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    I am questioning your really silly theology.

    God does NOT drag or force anyone to come to Him!
     
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    As I have said millions of times. John 3.16 destroys your system of theology. Argue all you want but it is FACT
     
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    How about answering #64?
     
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    Except it doesn't.
     
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    How is that question even relevant?
     
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    Agreed!

     
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    A) It's not "Jesus is Lord" it's "Jesus is THE Lord"
    B) Saying Jesus is the Lord by the Spirit does NOT automatically equate with salvation.
    Many lost men have spoken by the Spirit in the Bible: Balaam, Saul, Caiaphas, etc.
    It just means that when they say Jesus is the Lord they're saying that under influence of the Holy Spirit.
    It does not necessarily imply they've been born again of the Spirit.

     
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    That's the spiritual gift of extra faith, as in
    Rom_12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
    Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
    Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
    Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
    Rom 12:7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
    Rom 12:8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

    Therefore Galatians 5:22 is not about saving faith.
    It was God that gave George Muller the kind of serving faith he had.
    But as for the faith to believe the gospel, every lost man has that ability, hence the responsibility.

    Calvinism and Context never mix well together.
     
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    You’ve been continuously given biblical answers.Your hatred for reformed theology has rendered you blind to anything other than your own mindless musings that contradict God’s word.

    peace to you
     
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    Only reformed theology has the answers you are looking for.

    You claim, as usual, that God cannot be righteous if He condemns people for rejecting the gospel if they are unable.

    I point that scripture tells us all people have already rejected God and stand condemned when they reject what God reveals of Himself in creation. That is the teaching of scripture.

    That God choses some for salvation, and brings them into a right relationship with Himself, based on His will and His purpose, is the demonstration of His mercy and grace.

    Your question has been answered according to scripture. Accept it or not, but whatever you do won’t change the truth.

    peace to you
     
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    Will any non-Calvinist please answer the seven propositions with a simple yes or no to each?

    It seems to be Kryptonite to non-Calvinists.
     
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