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As long as your view does not agree with the bible why would I say that it does. Your just saying that does not make it so.

 

Same as you will not find one that says God is a trinity, but I do not doubt it. Do you? Well you must as according to you if the exact words are not in the bible then t can not be true.

 

Did I say it was out of context, NO. What your response shows is that you do not understand what the use of Midrash is. But, as per normal, just make pejorative comments.

 

If you think the verse is being used out of context then show me how.

 

The context does not say what you want it to say.

1Ti 2:1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,
1Ti 2:2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Are Kings and those in authority not part of ALL MEN. You are reading into the text what you need to find so that it fits your theology.

 

And all I am doing is telling where I see that Calvinism does not fit with scripture. Calvinism, as I have seen it presented and as I have read in their texts undermines the character of God. That is why I disagree with calvinism.

 

Don't have to read it again, but perhaps you should.

 

Please show me the quote that says "God CHOOSES based on his own pleasure". Remember no inference allowed as that is the standard you want everyone else to hold to. And remember choose to service is not the same as choose to salvation.

FYI
Rom_8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Conformed to the image of His son, those would be the ones that He knew would trust in Christ Jesus, right. Does God know who will come to faith, Yes does He cause them to believe No.

 

What you claim to be biblical is in fact not. That is not dishonest or me misunderstanding your view. You and many others have made it clear what you believe. I am just pointing out the errors in your theology.

 

lol. Man I have been dealing with what you right all along.

 

No, I read the whole thing.

Your problem is you ignore the bolded part.

You read to make the word fit your belief system, thats why world means elect. All sin forgiven does not mean all sin forgiven. And all the other stuff you read.

 

Good day my friend.

is the a reason we do this in this chat room. So many times I come in and see I have replies to me, then when I go to answer the thread is closed..

I am just wondering.