Reformed1689
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Or shows you simply have bad reading comprehension?Just shows that you do not trust what the bible says. Sad really.
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Or shows you simply have bad reading comprehension?Just shows that you do not trust what the bible says. Sad really.
No, I don't deny that the wants all types of people to be saved. Not just kings, not just Jews, etc. He does not want to save all individuals, otherwise, he would.
Thats talking about the elect and they all will be saved. Cant nobody thwart Gods will, desire. Havent you ever read this about God Job 23:13So you clear deny what the bible says. 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved. Shows that your calvinsit theology is more important to you than the bible. You deny clear scripture by twisting the text. Sad, really really sad.
I have never ignored Scripture properly exegeted.
I don't think you understand what Midrash is...
Give the reference.
Strawman. I never said the Father believes for them.
Or shows you simply have bad reading comprehension?
Man doesnt have a freewill because our will prior to new birth deliverance is a slave to sin. However man does have a accountable will, man is held accountable for his sinful choices even as a slave/servant to sin.
Thats talking about the elect and they all will be saved. Cant nobody thwart Gods will, desire. Havent you ever read this about God Job 23:13
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
Absolutely as I have shown.Mine is just fine, I trust the bible. Do you?
Except I just told you it doesn't so stop being dishonest.Your theology does.
Show me a reference that states God elects based on who he saw would believe in him. You won't find one.You need a reference that says God is omniscient. Are you not the ones that holler GOD IS SOVEREIGN? The text of the bible shows the foreknowledge of God. Ever hear of prophecy. Do you actually think He does not know what is going to happen, come on you can not be serious.
Last I checked, Romans was inspired by God, not an out of context commentary. So your whole post, to put it plainly, is stupid.The taking of Old Testament passages of Scripture out of their natural contexts is what is known in Rabbinic tradition as Midrash.
In general terms: Midrash is the Hebrew word for interpretation, amplification, exegesis of a holy, revealed text: the written Torah.
At Rom_3:10-18, the apostle (Rabbi) Paul, had a theme: the universality sin. He then went in search of the Hebrew Scriptures to prove his point, and he found some of the harshest statements concerning sin found in the Bible. However, if one read each of those verses of Scripture in their natural contexts, he would find that it was confined and particular, not general, which is how Paul used those texts.
For example, his use of Ecc_7:20 at Rom_3:10 is not the entire verse, for it reads, “For there is not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin.” Paul left off the phrase “and does not sin” at Rom_3:10. The point Solomon was making in Ecclesiastes was that there is no one on earth among mortals who is sinless, so be careful to live a balanced, godly life, not in self-rightesousness, but not in sin either.
Midrash of Rom_3:10-18; it is not meant to be taken literally of each and every human being.
Even Calvinist Donald Grey Barnhouse noted the same when he wrote, “But we add that total depravity does not mean that there is no good in man, but that there is no good in man which can satisfy God.
Some Calvinists tend to portray mankind as demons and completely neglect the fact that though man’s nature has been tainted from the fall, humans are still created in the image of God.
I have been shown nothing of the sort. All I have been shown is out of context Scripture.Oh would that mean as you calvinists would exegete the text. But you have been shown that your version does not fit with the bible text so why would we accept your version.
I did not deny it and you should quit being so dishonest. 1 Tim. 2:4 has a context and you are ignoring it.So you clear deny what the bible says. 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved. Shows that your calvinsit theology is more important to you than the bible. You deny clear scripture by twisting the text. Sad, really really sad.
Absolutely as I have shown.
On the contrary, I am Calvinist, as long as it agrees with Scripture. All I do is tell you how I read Scripture because it is plainly there.Not really, what you have shown is that you trust the bible as long as it agrees with calvinism.