If Calvinism is true, then Christ died for God's sins

[Silverhair]

You mean the understanding that does not rely on taking things out of context and hermeneutical gymnastics? Ok.

You keep coming back with that old canard and as I have told you many times you trust your confessions and I trust the bible. You of course will disagree but reality is what it is.

 

[Reformed1689]

You are putting limits on God. Since God is sovereign He can and does do as He wants. I find it amazing that you would want to restrict God.

Can God lie? You have no idea what the sovereignty of God means. You really should quit posing because you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Reformed1689]

You keep coming back with that old canard and as I have told you many times you trust your confessions and I trust the bible. You of course will disagree but reality is what it is.

And you keep coming back with the same dishonesty that I rely on confessions when I do not. You openly deny parts of the Bible and say "Austin said" when all he did was quote Scripture.

 

[Silverhair]

I quoted scripture. Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, says no one seeks God. He is reiterating what he brought up in Romans 1.

Notice the twisting of attribution Silverhair does in an attempt to disassociate God's word from his theology.

Act 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
Act 17:27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

As I said Austin you said no one seeks God but they can and do or else you are disagreeing with scripture again.

 

[Silverhair]

You need to read it to know you don't know your history. It did not start with Augustine.

Read your history it did.

 

[Reformed1689]

Act 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
Act 17:27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

As I said Austin you said no one seeks God but they can and do or else you are disagreeing with scripture again.

Context....

 

[AustinC]

You keep coming back with that old canard and as I have told you many times you trust your confessions and I trust the bible. You of course will disagree but reality is what it is.

Out of curiosity, would you please provide a quote from @Reformed1689 where he quotes from a confession rather than the Bible. You keep making unsubstantiated assertions so I would like you to substantiate your assertion that Reformed1689 has shared confessions to you in which he trusts, rather than scripture alone.
Please share the quote or acknowledge you made it up and it is not accurate.

 

[Silverhair]

Can God sin?

That's a really dumb question. You must think that he can as your asking the question.

 

[Reformed1689]

Read your history it did.

So you are ignorant, foolish, AND stubborn. Noted. But quit putting forth the falsehood that it started with Augustine especially when you have been given evidence to the contrary you just refuse to look at it. Why so scared?

 

[Reformed1689]

That's a really dumb question. You must think that he can as your asking the question.

Answer the question. There is a point here to show how stupid your theology is. Can God sin?

 

[Silverhair]

Can God lie? You have no idea what the sovereignty of God means. You really should quit posing because you have no idea what you are talking about.

Your idea of the sovereignty of God means the He is sovereign as long as He operates within the calvinist view of sovereign. You limit His sovereignty and then claim you got it right. Your problem is that you do not realize what sovereign means.

 

[Reformed1689]

Out of curiosity, would you please provide a quote from @Reformed1689 where he quotes from a confession rather than the Bible. You keep making unsubstantiated assertions so I would like you to substantiate your assertion that Reformed1689 has shared confessions to you in which he trusts, rather than scripture alone.
Please share the quote or acknowledge you made it up and it is not accurate.

He can't. He would rather keep bearing false witness because he know he won't get reprimanded for it.

 

[Reformed1689]

Your idea of the sovereignty of God means the He is sovereign as long as He operates within the calvinist view of sovereign. You limit His sovereignty and then claim you got it right. Your problem is that you do not realize what sovereign means.

Why will you not answer the question?

 

[Silverhair]

And you keep coming back with the same dishonesty that I rely on confessions when I do not. You openly deny parts of the Bible and say "Austin said" when all he did was quote Scripture.

When Austin says no one seeks God and I show him that the bible shows people can and do seek God what response do I get . You ignore the text as usual.

 

[Reformed1689]

When Austin says no one seeks God and I show him that the bible shows people can and do seek God what response do I get . You ignore the text as usual.

No, the only one who has ignored text, as well as context, between the three of us is you sir.

 

[Silverhair]

Context....

What does the context say that would alter that fact that Paul said people can seek God. Just because you do not like what the bible says doe not alter what it says.

 

[Silverhair]

Out of curiosity, would you please provide a quote from @Reformed1689 where he quotes from a confession rather than the Bible. You keep making unsubstantiated assertions so I would like you to substantiate your assertion that Reformed1689 has shared confessions to you in which he trusts, rather than scripture alone.
Please share the quote or acknowledge you made it up and it is not accurate.

You do not have to quote a confession to show that you follow the confessions. He does just as you do. If you did not then your theology would be different wouldn't it.

 

[Silverhair]

So you are ignorant, foolish, AND stubborn. Noted. But quit putting forth the falsehood that it started with Augustine especially when you have been given evidence to the contrary you just refuse to look at it. Why so scared?

What evidence have you put forward that would show that it did not start with Augustine? A calvinist book, what would expect it to say?

Your reasoning is circular read a calvinist book to prove that calvinism is true.

 

[Reformed1689]

What does the context say that would alter that fact that Paul said people can seek God. Just because you do not like what the bible says doe not alter what it says.

First of all, does it say can? No, you read that into the text. You are an eisegesis king. It says they should. It does not say they can or will. It says should. Man has an obligation to seek God. Yet we are not far from him. We see him all around us in creation. See Romans 1.

So yes, you ignore the contexts of Scripture to prop up your ridiculous notions.

 

[Reformed1689]

You do not have to quote a confession to show that you follow the confessions. He does just as you do. If you did not then your theology would be different wouldn't it.

Nope. LOL.