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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Guido, Mar 24, 2022.

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  1. Silverhair

    Silverhair Well-Known Member

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    You keep coming back with that old canard and as I have told you many times you trust your confessions and I trust the bible. You of course will disagree but reality is what it is.
     
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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    Can God lie? You have no idea what the sovereignty of God means. You really should quit posing because you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    And you keep coming back with the same dishonesty that I rely on confessions when I do not. You openly deny parts of the Bible and say "Austin said" when all he did was quote Scripture.
     
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    Act 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
    Act 17:27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

    As I said Austin you said no one seeks God but they can and do or else you are disagreeing with scripture again.
     
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    Silverhair Well-Known Member

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    Read your history it did.
     
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    Context....
     
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    Out of curiosity, would you please provide a quote from @Reformed1689 where he quotes from a confession rather than the Bible. You keep making unsubstantiated assertions so I would like you to substantiate your assertion that Reformed1689 has shared confessions to you in which he trusts, rather than scripture alone.
    Please share the quote or acknowledge you made it up and it is not accurate.
     
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    That's a really dumb question. You must think that he can as your asking the question.
     
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    So you are ignorant, foolish, AND stubborn. Noted. But quit putting forth the falsehood that it started with Augustine especially when you have been given evidence to the contrary you just refuse to look at it. Why so scared?
     
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    Answer the question. There is a point here to show how stupid your theology is. Can God sin?
     
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    Your idea of the sovereignty of God means the He is sovereign as long as He operates within the calvinist view of sovereign. You limit His sovereignty and then claim you got it right. Your problem is that you do not realize what sovereign means.
     
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    He can't. He would rather keep bearing false witness because he know he won't get reprimanded for it.
     
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    Why will you not answer the question?
     
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    When Austin says no one seeks God and I show him that the bible shows people can and do seek God what response do I get . You ignore the text as usual.
     
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    No, the only one who has ignored text, as well as context, between the three of us is you sir.
     
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    What does the context say that would alter that fact that Paul said people can seek God. Just because you do not like what the bible says doe not alter what it says.
     
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    You do not have to quote a confession to show that you follow the confessions. He does just as you do. If you did not then your theology would be different wouldn't it.
     
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    What evidence have you put forward that would show that it did not start with Augustine? A calvinist book, what would expect it to say?

    Your reasoning is circular read a calvinist book to prove that calvinism is true.
     
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    First of all, does it say can? No, you read that into the text. You are an eisegesis king. It says they should. It does not say they can or will. It says should. Man has an obligation to seek God. Yet we are not far from him. We see him all around us in creation. See Romans 1.

    So yes, you ignore the contexts of Scripture to prop up your ridiculous notions.
     
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    Nope. LOL.
     
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