Featured The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

As I said before you are trusting in some man rather than the bible.

 

Was the Calvin or Gill or perhaps Pink. Your idea is not found in the bible unless you read it into the text.

 

Bad fingers should have said Ken H.

 

Can you say something that is, "God-Honoring"?

 

"But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men," John 2:24.

 

These verses do not leave you any wiggle room

1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance.
1Ti 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.

Notice that it is ALL MEN that He is the saviour of because all can be saved. Then notice He adds those that believe, why because they have actually trusted in Him for their salvation while those of the all that did not trust were lost.

 

Just because I point out your error you seem to get upset. That fact I do point out your error is God honoring because I am confronting error.

 

That is your answer. Proof texting out of context verses. That is calvimism 101.

 

Cite just one passage where 'lost' means 'hell-bound'.

 

Yep, you're one I had in mind when I made the post.

"Ever and anon the non-Cal cries, why doth He still find fault?" - Aaron

 

Apparently, the God of Calvinism is not powerful enough to create free will, nor sovereign enough to deal with it.

 

1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

For therefore we both labour,.... Not in the word and doctrine, though they did;

nor in the exercise of internal godliness, though there is a work in faith, and a labour in love;

nor with their own hands, at their trades and business, to support themselves, and others;

but by enduring hardships and afflictions, as stripes, imprisonment, weariness, pain, watchings, fastings, hunger, thirst, cold, and nakedness; see 2 Corinthians 11:23.

And suffer reproach; with patience and cheerfulness. The Alexandrian copy, and another manuscript, read, "we strive";

or contend even to an agony, combating with sin, Satan, and the world, with profane men, and with false teachers;

and to all this they were animated by the promises made to godliness;

and therefore they showed it by their practices, or rather by their sufferings, that they believed it to be a true and faithful saying; and which is further conferred by what follows:

because we trust in the living God; for the accomplishment of the said promises, who has power, and therefore can, and is faithful, and therefore will, make good what he has promised;

and since it is life he has promised, faith is the more encouraged to trust in him, since he is the living God, in opposition to, and distinction from, lifeless idols;

he has life in himself, essentially, originally, and independently, and is the author and giver of life, natural, spiritual, and eternal, unto others.

Wherefore there is good reason to trust in him for the fulfilling of the promises of the present and future life, made unto godliness.

Who is the Saviour of all men; in a providential way, giving them being and breath, upholding them in their beings, preserving their lives, and indulging them with the blessings and mercies of life;

for that he is the Saviour of all men, with a spiritual and everlasting salvation, is not true in fact.

Specially of those that believe; whom though he saves with an eternal salvation; yet not of this,

but of a temporal salvation, are the words to be understood: or as there is a general providence, which attends all mankind, there is a special one which relates to the elect of God; these are regarded in Providence, and are particularly saved and preserved before conversion, in order to be called; and after conversion, after they are brought to believe in Christ, they are preserved from many enemies, and are delivered out of many afflictions and temptations; and are the peculiar care and darlings of providence, being to God as the apple of his eye: and there is a great deal of reason to believe this, for if he is the Saviour of all men, then much more of them who are of more worth, value, and esteem with him, than all the world beside; and if they are saved by him with the greater salvation, then much more with the less; and if he the common Saviour of all men, and especially of saints, whom he saves both ways, then there is great reason to trust in him for the fulfilment of the promises of life, temporal and eternal, made to godliness, and godly persons. This epithet of God
seems to be taken out of Psalm 17:7
where he is called ,
"the Saviour of them that trust", or believe.

1 Timothy 4 Gill's Exposition

 

The book of Jeremiah shows God pleading with Israel to repent before delivering them up.