Featured The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

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Our sin debt is our sin against God.

Conviction of our sin is necessary
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Sin as Debt
Benjamin Keach.
Matthew 18:23-35
Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened to a certain king, which would take account of his servants.…

I. That sin is a debt, a vast debt; or that there is much, yea great, exceeding great evil in sin, considered as a debt.

II. That sinners are debtors, and have nothing to pay, and therefore are forgiven freely, as an act of God's mercy, all their debts without any satisfaction made by them.

III. That God doth and will call sinners who are debtors to Him, to an account, be they willing or no.

IV. That a pardoned person, or one that God hath forgiven, does forgive from his heart all those that have injured him, and they that do not so are not, nor shall be ever forgiven.

(Benjamin Keach.)

 

I thought that might be the case. You just can not stand the idea that one would actually trust the bible rather than your philosophy.

I know why God condemns and I know why He saves but you do not seem to have that figured out yet.

 

He doesn't. The words 'the sins of' do not appear in any ancient manuscript. If you will look at your King James version you will see that the words are in italics to show that they have been added by the translators. If you look at the NKJV you will see that they have been (rightly) omitted.

 

Trusting is God is an act of a free will.

 

Just as it says God saves but you always overlook the reason that He saves.

 

1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

So the verse still says that He is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world or do you not understand the sentence?

 

If God's will is that all be saved and yet some are not and you say man is thwarting God's will then you must be a universalist.

Why you struggle so much against the bible I do not know. You will not trust scripture unless it fits your philosophy.

 

And it would seem that the determinist does not think that God can in His sovereignty grant man the free will ability so that he can actually make real choices.

The determinist has to rely the hope that he was actually one of those pre-selected ones he has no ability to make a real choice. Even the idea that he is saved has determined for him.

 

That comes about because you are reading the bible through your calvinism. You just do not like what the bible says 1Jn_2:2 propitiation for sins of the whole world. Or do you think it means something else.
Christ covering the sins of all allows for all to be saved but they still have to trust in Him for salvation. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Some will trust and some will not but it is their choice Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

The only conclusion that cannot be gotten around is that Christ paid for the sins of all and man has a free will and the ability to choose to trust in or reject Christ Jesus.

 

It would seem I am the one that trust in the sovereignty of God. You need God to fit into your view of what His sovereignty can be. When He says hear & trust the gospel message you say man can't do that. When God says He desires all to be saved you says nope can't be. When the Christ says that if He is lifted up He will draw all people tom Himself you say that means only the elect. You do not trust the bible you are trusting in your calvinism.

I on the other hand trust that He in His sovereignty will do exactly as He desires. I do not put limits on what He can do or change the meaning of scripture to fit a philosophy.

 

God saves but He only saves those that trust in the Son. Since you say that you have to do nothing, which includes believe, then you are right you are a failure as you are lost.
Heb_11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.