Voting Day (Again) in Georgia

Look at it this way, @Van

Abortion is a holocaust. Compare it to the Holocaust in WW2.

Your argument is that we should support death camps if one would be shut down because by closing that one deaths would be reduced.

Your claim is that you support reducing deaths. While that is true, you ate ignoring that you would be supporting deaths to get that reduction.

Even though you are opposed to the idea of abortion, both you and @Reynolds are pro-abortion where the rubber meats the road because you both support killing the unborn as if the ends (reducing abortions) justify the means (supporting 98% of abortions as a compromise to get that reduction).

Your complaint is that by not supporting the GOP I am guilty of passively allowing that 1.1% of abortions to take place. But the truth is we are not responsible for what other people do. We are responsible for our actions. I do not play any role in killing the unborn. But because of your support, you and @Reynolds share the responsibility for killing over 600,000 unborn children a year.

 

The issue is the GOP has actively decided to hold a platform that accepts abortions before the 20th week because it is not in their best interest politically. Graham is fighting within the GOP to lower the period to 14 weeks, but is meeting resistance.

I agree that any life saved is progress.

The problem is the compromise. The GOP isn't fighting to end all a options federally. They have built in a concession to allow for the deaths of 98.9% if the unborn. Ending all abortions os the goal, but the path to that goal is paved with the bones of dead children.

 

You voted to keep 98.9% of abortions legal at the federal level. You voted to make killing babies a state right. You are pro-abortion by your actions, even though you are against the idea of abortion.

As far as my stance against abortion being a zero policy making me a part of the godless left, that is just you lashing out. It is childish and easily ignored.

 

Gaining ground against aboution is not wrong.

I only wish the GOP didn't have to declare 98.9% of abortions political capitol to gain that ground. That is the problem with politics. It is worldly compromise.

But don't forget the reason for my post. @Van 's claim was that not to support 98.9% of abortions ad accepted policy at this time was to support 100% of abortions.

I don't care if @Van votes. I said that should be his decision based on his convictions. He said I must vote for the GOP even if it was against my conscious or I would be supporting abortion. He called me a part of the godless left because I chose to prayerfully follow my conscience by abstaining from voting.

 

I know you are anti-abortion (just as many democrats are anti-abortion). Those democrats also say progress is made on small steps as they work to bring the DNC to a different position.

The problem is what happens during g this process.

Did Kemp say he would fight to ban abortion in GA? If so I could respect that even if he met too much resistance to reach that promise.

NO. Kemp vowed to keep abortions up to the 6th week legal. I understand why he did it. But it is still supporting over 40% of the abortions that occur in GA.

And you are pro-abortion in action. I agree it to ultimately reach an anti-abortion ideal. But you are supporting keeping abortion legal at this time to end abortion in the future.

That is called "child sacrifice". The goal is good, but the means to that end is not.

 

I agree that the perfect would be to support no abortion. But supporting any abortion is something I simply cannot do. This less than perfect path of killing most to save some is not good.

We (my church and association) has mot become the enemy of the good (something you now are). We have found a way to save babies in the category you are killing via reaching out to those mothers rather than by murdering then for political gain.

 

There is no "facilating". The powers of this world will do evil. The political powers of this world do not need facilating to do evil.

You are, however, actively supporting abortion. You know this as evidenced by your posts (by your claim Christians should vote regardless of their convictions).

The reason I know that you realize you are pro-abortion in your support of policies to keep abortion by the fact you are more intelligent than your post above.

 

This is not true.

Brian Kemp vowed to keep abortion up to 6 weeks legal in Georgia. That was a part of his platform.

Those who voted for him supported him (actively supported his playform....i.e., keeping about 43% of abortions performed in GA legal).

Same with the GOP. At this time they are committed to keeping 98.9% of abortions legal at a federal level. That is a part of their strategy to keep voters (to keep the pro-choice Republicans).

If you vote GOP then you support keeping those abortions legal in order to maintain political strength.

You can't get around it. You DO support abortion, you just do not support the idea of abortions.

@Van is the same. He suggests not to vote to keep 98.9% of abortions legal in order to appeal to pro-choice Republicans and attract independents is liberal. That, of course, is nonsense (he is just tossing out anything to obscure facts).

 

A group is killing 100 children.
You make a deal to restrict the killing.
You agree to help them kill 99 children.
They spare one as the compromise.

I rejoice in the one life saved.
I even acknowledge that you saved that life.

But at the same time you saved that life by helping to kill 99 children.


We do not control the future. But we are responsible for our actions.

Asking people to violate their conscience in order to support killing the unborn to save lives is wrong.

 

That is false. We work to save babies. And we save many.

The difference is I do not support keeping most abortions legal so that I can save some.

The reason is I do not believe God credits evil as good.

It is good that your support helps save some lives. But the compromise that you have chosen - sacrifice children to save children - is not good.