Featured Why do you think that by Sowing Changes to the Meanings in God's Word, has Reaped such a Harvest?

Baptist pastor Glenn Conjurske wrote: "If God himself were to place this moment a perfect translation in the hands of his church, and command every saint to use that version only, upon pain of death, this would not solve a single practical or theological question which now unsettles the church. It would not make Calvinists Arminians, nor the amillennialists premillennialists. It would not move the women to give up their jewelry, not the mean their ball games. It would, in fact, leave us just exactly where we are today. Many today of course believe that the King James Version is perfect, but if they are honest they must candidly acknowledge that the advent of the King James Version never solved a single doctrinal or practical difficulty in the church" (Olde Paths and Ancient Landmarks, July, 1996, p. 161).

 

And I believe that if God Himself told you that you were wrong about something, you'd post numerous copy and paste responses trying to argue with Him. You have an enormous ego which won't let you admit you might be wrong about something. Pride is a sin.

 

I have never claimed that my understandings or interpretations of Scripture could not be wrong. I properly encourage other posters to back up their assertions and prove them to be true since I would accept the truth.

Is it being claimed that pride in unproven and non-true claims for the KJV and pride in unproven and misleading accusations against other English Bibles would be sin?

 

That's false witness. Not all kjvonlyist give false witness, but most of them do.

 

What a misguided and disgusting thought.

 

Your opinion is incorrect. You do not even seem to understand what constitutes a KJV-only view as you incorrectly think that only Peter Ruckman's view is KJV-only.

You contradict the doctrine of truth taught in the KJV as you bear false witness with your bogus,
non-true accusations and personal attacks.

 

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You post like your opinion is the ultimate authority. That's arrogance and pride.

 

Perhaps you describe your own opinions since you seem to imagine that your opinions of me and your accusations against me cannot be wrong. You also fail to criticize evident KJV-only arrogance and pride in their unproven KJV-only opinions and claims that they assert to be true so your inconsistent accusation would seem to be hypocritical.

I nowhere claim that my opinion is the ultimate authority. The truth is very evident and obvious that I am not a KJV-only advocate or even as much a KJV-only advocate as Alan Gross shows to be in his very own posts. Readers can easily read my posts and see that I am not KJV-only. Therefore, it shows no arrogance and pride on my part to point out that evident truth. You judge unrighteous judgment. Are you trying to defend or excuse his non-true claim?

 

You'd be hilarious if you weren't so weird.

 

On the OP I can tell you exactly why... No one on here can control the wind and God alone births is children, his way and as Jesus told Nicodemus, not that he needed to be, how it was done.

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Brother Glen

Btw... If you question what I say, then question the following scripture and tell me how the numberless multitude got there?

Revelation 7: 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

 

I post my opinions as opinions! You may think they are wrong, and that is ok. That would be your opinion. However, you post your opinions as if they are facts and how dare someone question what you post! You declare people wrong when they post something contrary to your OPINION. You come across like you are the ultimate authority on the subject when most of what you post is simply copying and pasting the writings of other people who agree with you. That is my whole problem with you.

 

Perhaps you do not practice what you preach since you declare me to be wrong so do you have a problem with you yourself?

You do not criticize KJV-only posters for posting their KJV-only claims and opinions as being facts when they are not so again you fail to practice what you preach. Do you complain that I state the truth that their unproven KJV-only claims and opinions are not facts?

I post proven and true statements as facts. Scriptural truths and documented historical facts are not opinions.

I do not claim my opinions are facts as you incorrectly allege.

It is sound and right to state that non-true claims and accusations are non-true. The truth is very evident and obvious that I am not a KJV-only advocate or even as much a KJV-only advocate as Alan Gross shows to be in his very own posts. My statement concerning which you complained was true.

 

You are one weirdo. That's all I'll say. And Conan must be your biggest fan. He/she loves everything you post. Strange.

I guess the best thing for me to do is put you on ignore. So that's what I'll do.

 

One poster complains about the making of accurate statements while throwing out insults. It is strange that a believer objects to the stating of the truth. The poster fails to demonstrate that I stated something that was not true. I am supposed to be wrong for stating the truth.

God’s people are not instructed nor encouraged to reject knowledge of the truth (Hos. 4:6).

Followers of Christ are not instructed to assume unproven assertions based on fallacies, to lean on their own understanding or opinions, to believe assertions that are not true, and to follow traditions of men.

 

KJV defender D. A. Waite maintained that “it is impossible to bring over into English all of the nuances of the original Words” (Critical Answer, p. 41). Waite wrote: “How can English be a perfect representation of the autographs when they were written in Hebrew and Greek? The English can’t represent Hebrew perfectly and the English can’t represent Greek perfectly because it is a translation. Translations are not the same as the original Words of the text (Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic)” (Central Seminary Refuted, p. 77).

 

It seems a certain poster tries to misrepresent or distort out of context the sound point made by Glenn Conjurske. He was clearly referring to a man claiming infallibility for his own interpretations.

It can be misleading and even wrong to suggest that man’s interpretation of Scripture is synonymous with Scripture itself since man’s interpretation can be mistaken or wrong.

Kevin Vanhoozer warned: “To believe in the absoluteness of our interpretations is like worshiping our own creations; it is like thinking one reads with the eyes of God” (Is There a Meaning, p. 184).

Ronald Enroth observed: “People, thinking that they were placing their allegiance in the word of God, were actually placing their allegiance in a man and his interpretation of the word of God” (Churches that Abuse, p. 48).


Alan Gross seems to place his allegiance in his own imperfect, fallible interpretations, assuming that they cannot be wrong.