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Annihilation

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


This reference will not be good enough for anyone.
But if you are judged in shame and contempt, why is the explanation for everlasting necessary?
Temporarily destroyed is not destroyed. Why the need to explain everlasting?
 

Some Rando

Active Member
Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Everyone that "sleeps" (is dead) will awake to final judgement.
John reinforces this:
John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Really simple. Everyone in Scripture is resurrected, some to a resurrection of "life" some to a resurrection of "damnation".
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

But if you are judged in shame and contempt, why is the explanation for everlasting necessary?
Because it lasts forever.
Do you have "contempt" for Hitler? Is he a "shameful" person?
Isn't Hitler dead?
He suffers everlasting shame and contempt and irreversible death.
What more do you want?
Temporarily destroyed is not destroyed.
No, that's nonsense.
Why the need to explain everlasting?
There's no need to "explain" everlasting.
"Everlasting" means what it says.
Hell is "everlasting".
So is the punishment.
The fire and brimstone are everlasting. The punishment is everlasting.

The wicked are not everlasting, however, and no passage of Scripture implies it.
ECT inexplicably believes that the wicked ARE "everlasting".
There's not a single piece of evidence in Scripture to support it.

None of this is complicated.
 
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JesusFan

Well-Known Member
The fires of hell are eternal.

What you believe is that the wicked are "eternal".

Please quote one verse.....
Just one single verse in Scripture...
which says that the wicked will live forever, or that they will inherit eternal life.

Either you can post it, or you are basically a troll.
Aska nd ye shall receive
and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Everyone that "sleeps" (is dead) will awake to final judgement.
John reinforces this:
John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Really simple. Everyone in Scripture is resurrected, some to a resurrection of "life" some to a resurrection of "damnation".
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


Because it lasts forever.
Do you have "contempt" for Hitler? Is he a "shameful" person?
Isn't Hitler dead?
He suffers everlasting shame and contempt and irreversible death.
What more do you want?

No, that's nonsense.

There's no need to "explain" everlasting.
"Everlasting" means what it says.
Hell is "everlasting".
So is the punishment.
The fire and brimstone are everlasting. The punishment is everlasting.

The wicked are not everlasting, however, and no passage of Scripture implies it.
ECT inexplicably believes that the wicked ARE "everlasting".
There's not a single piece of evidence in Scripture to support it.

None of this is complicated.
Like I said, it won’t be good enough for you.
 

Some Rando

Active Member
Aska nd ye shall receive
and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
I'm on board with Satan being tormented forever, if that's what God chooses.
The beast and the false prophet are images, not people, and those images can endure suffering as well if that's the ecstatic image John is seeing.
Why are death and hades also thrown into the lake of fire?

Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Is God torturing hell now?
Is God torturing death?
Where is the passage which says the unsaved inherit eternal life?
 
I'm on board with Satan being tormented forever, if that's what God chooses.
The beast and the false prophet are images, not people, and those images can endure suffering as well if that's the ecstatic image John is seeing.
Why are death and hades also thrown into the lake of fire?

Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Is God torturing hell now?
Is God torturing death?
Where is the passage which says the unsaved inherit eternal life?
People might consider the scriptural and historical materials, as well as definitional meanings, and their uses; a book to read, Sincerely Dead - Dying, To Know Jesus; as it discusses the texts on the matter of life, death, and reward and punishment - Sincerely Dead Dying, To Know Jesus by brother Aaron Earnest : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 
Aska nd ye shall receive
and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
That text, and its context, and its words in their definitional meanings, as given by scripture, &c. are answered in this, here, simply see the chapter on that text - Annihilation
 
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