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That makes two of us who don't understand what's being said. My point is that the OT saints could be saved without understanding the Gospel message that we now understand so well.

If you're that far out of the picture, I'll just leave you there. There is nothing I can say, or no one else.

There are several examples but for now I'll use this one. When Christ told the apostles He would be handed over and suffer many things at the hand of the religious leaders and be killed and raised up on the 3rd day, Peter rebuked Christ and said no, this can't happen. None of the apostles...

No, God doesn't always get His way with man. We see that throughout Scripture with God pleading for Israel to turn from their sin. It will be too late for man when he see's the full glory of God. Nowhere in Scripture is it taught that man gets a second chance after death, that's why the...

The faith in Heb. 11 is faith in God and His promises, those promises included a coming Messiah. Some had a distant understanding of this and some did not, especially the pagan Gentiles. Heb. 11 is demonstrating justification by faith from the time of Abel before the Law, and after the Law...

I have to agree! I have other things to do rather than watch grown men act as fools. But I'm not ignoring their skill and bravery. Like a boxer in the ring, mama's boys need not apply.

I lean the other way, there is nothing good that God said about Adam after he fell from innocence. But you could be right! I won't argue that.

This is also what Calvin ignored, though it was there for him to see. God predestined man to a plan to be conformed into the image of Christ. His redemptive plan. God did not predestine the individual of His choosing for salvation, that is pagan!

If you notice, Christ was sent forth "as a plan for the fulness of time, to unite all things in Christ." What was the plan? The plan is all that believed in Him would be delivered to the Father spotless, body, soul, and spirit. That is God's plan of redemption at work, and all that He...

Christ is hidden in the OT Scripture but is very much present in types and shadows. He was there at the bitter waters in Mara when God told Moses to cut down the Tree and cast in the water. That Tree represented the Cross of Christ and what He there did. And the waters became sweet. He was...

Naaman did exactly what Rahab did, both being pagans in a pagan land, and both were gloriously saved by faith.

It's ok if you don't believe God seen faith in Naaman and arranged everything for him believe in the one and only God to his salvation. It all began with God showing favor to Naaman, to make his salvation possible, knowing he would believe. 2 Kings 5:1 "Now Naaman, captain of the host of...

I guess you would say the same of Rahab after she acknowledged God.

That summary is what I've heard over the past 30-40 years from many who have a problem with Calvinism. That summary being almost always the point made. Of course there are others who have a much better understanding of the problems represented in Calvinism. They tend to get into the...

I guess you don't agree with my summary.

Those that lived thousands of years ago before the Law of Moses had no Law and sin was not imputed where there is no Law, as Paul said. But that did not set them free from the fact they were sinners and lost in this world. Their sins were not imputed in the sense that judgement will not be...

If you read post #26 you will see what I meant. There is much to be explained in order to understand that the Gospel has always existed but there were many in the world who had no access to it. There was no Gospel for them to understand unless God sent someone to them. If you can understand...

The way I see it and understand it is that the Gospel actually goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden. But no where close to the understanding we have today with the completed canon of Scripture. When Adam a Eve sinned, God provided for them coats of animal skins. This is a picture of the...

This is how God calls us in this dispensation, through the Gospel message, worldwide. During the Law they were called by the Law being a school teacher pointing to Christ through the Sacrificial System, the animal sacrifice that represented the coming Christ as the Lamb of God. But only those...

Solomon in his later years did take wives with strange gods and it appears he acknowledged those gods to pleas his wives, and or various reasons. I can't say if he ever turned from that apostasy. So I can't say where he's at.