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Good post. Don't know Kizziah. I never considered Kinney to be a leader, per se, but anyway it's good that he is changing. About Kinney, in March he was still advocating for an inerrant KJV at 4.30".

All pretty much irrelevant to my points. You are completely wrong, according to the KJV. The Bible is absolutely for lost people. A person in any language cannot be saved without the Word of God, as the Bible clearly says in Romans 10:17: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the...

It's just parallelism, saying the same thing twice with different phrasing. That's how Hebrew poetry works, and John was certainly Jewish.

Other KJV authors or leaders up in years: David Cloud (in college when I was), H. D. Williams, Riplinger herself (76). Like me, one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. :confused: And Jack Chick died in 2016. Don't know who replaced him.

I've heard from one who knows Waite well that Kirk DiVietro was named as head of the DBS several years ago. And almost all the current members are over 70. I've never met or heard DiVietro, but he is the guy who wrote Cleaning Up Hazardous Materials (subtitle, A Refutation of Gail Riplinger's...

I agree with you about the emotionalism. Back in the day it seemed to be a wonderful revival centered church. Don't know what happened to it, but didn't Ray Batema resign at some point? Don't remember the issue.

Here's my problem. Obviously the KJV is English, but only about 18% of the world speaks English, and for a very large percentage of that it is their second language, not their heart language. Like I tell people, there is no Japanese KJV because it is English and their language is Japanese. On...

Care to share your reasons?

Not really about the OP, but whatever.

Here is the page for further information about D. A. Waite's death: https://www.biblefortoday.org/. Interestingly enough, that is the front page for his "Bible for Today" organization. The information there is actually the same as on the funeral home eulogy. There are no links open on the Bible...

What point are you making re the OP?

Who is "we"? My point was not that KJV advocates will fade away, but that as a movement it needs new leadership because the old leadership is, well, old! :Coffee

I didn't know that. Thanks for the information. As far as you know, is his son the one to lead that ministry now?

Good post! Not too long ago I had an elderly man ask me (as a prof) what to tell a young pastor, graduate of an IFB college, who said he was changing to the NKJV. My only answer was that in our culture such a change might limit his influence. So I think a lot of young folk are rethinking the...

One thing a movement absolutely must have is leadership, and I believe we are seeing the old leadership die off, with no coherent young leadership to take over. First of all, Peter Ruckman kicked the bucket in 2016, and I'm not aware that a leader of similar abilities has taken over that...

The concept existed, even if the relevant terminology had not yet been coined. Cain committed murder before any such word existed. Irrelevant to my point. I see no relevance to my point here. All I said was that "Easter" in the KJV is an archaism. Since archaisms are not figures of speech...

Well of course. I don't think I was obtuse. Nothing I've seen you write has suggested to me that you are a linguist or Bible translator, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong. Are you a linguist and/or Bible translator? Really???? Wow! What's the deal here? 1. You don't have what it takes to...

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Please try to communicate clearly. Again, what are you talking about. Do you have a different definition of anachronism? If so, trot it out. You're odd to me, too. :p Please prove to me your contention that there was a holiday named "Easter" in...

And no answer from Alan Gross whatsoever to the fact that "Easter" in the KJV is an anachronism. Not being a linguist or translator, perhaps he did not understand my point.

@Alan Gross. Nothing in the long post you wrote changes the fact the "Easter" in the KJV is an anachronism. It may have been used in later centuries, but nothing you wrote says the word existed in Greek in the first century. If the first mention of the word in history is from the 8th century...