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To me, this is simply philosophical. I'm saying it's Totally new, as per Scripture. You are saying it's like buying a Car and putting a turbo kit on it. I'm saying it's not even a car anymore.

Define "upright" Define "moral" From what i see in Genesis 1:26 (unless you put a prophetic twist on it and allow for it to mean that God's "Image" will eventually be the image of the Risen Christ) the Image was for "Authority" to have "Dominion" on the Earth. Morality is a construct of MAN...

Greetings, brother! I'll share a few scriptures... Rev. 21:5 5 And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” 2 Corinthians 5:17 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new...

Amen.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. So, explain Galatians 3:6-9. I do not see how that accords with what you are saying. Thank you!

Interesting, so you believe in a Pre-existence like the mormons do? Maybe i misunderstand you :) (my apologies if i did)

I'm tracking you here. I find it powerful to pray Paul's prayers in Colossians 1, Philippians 1, Ephesians 1, and Ephesians 3. Not just for myself, but for God's people. Maybe you can start praying them for me? I am convinced that if we'll humbly pray these prayers, He will give His Children...

Do you believe God's Truth is "Grasped," or do you believe it is "revealed" by Him?

Well i'm thankful we can have a good discussion about it. May the Lord Give us a spirit of Wisdom and Revelation in the Knowledge of Him. Peace my brother!

I love God's Sovereignty. I love His Grace.

Romans 9:32-33 (KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 9:7-8...

Romans 15:12 (KJV) And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust. The remnant of believing Israel are fellow branches, the root Is Christ. I believe it says we are son's of Abraham because of faith...

I'm honestly not trying to impose anything into the text. God will have Mercy upon whom He will...through the promised seed--the Lord Jesus Christ. And to those fitted for destruction are those outside of Christ--who rejected God's Promised Seed. Romans 9:7-8 (KJV) Neither, because they are...

No I'm not Jewish. I'm a born from above child of God. I'm just looking at the plain realities of the Text.

The objector is saying, "why did you make me of the seed of Abraham if you're just going to reject me." The pessimistic Jewish objector is all throughout Romans. "Shall we continue in sin so grace can abound?"

But you're not including Paul's words after Romans 9:30-33 (KJV) What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not...

Read the first several Verses of Chapter 9. The context isn't even close to being about individual's salvations, but the method of Salvation. It is not through being a physical descendant of Abraham. It is about Christ, the promised Seed. Read verses 1-8 and stay within that context. Then Paul...

It was His sovereign Choice to Appoint Christ the Heir according to the Promise, not physical descendants of Abraham. That is the point of the passage.

The old Foreshadowed the New. Thinking that the Jacob and Esau story is about individual election is man-centric. Recognizing that it's about Choosing Christ as His elect to bring salvation is Christocentric.

The passage is to show that the promise was not according to the flesh, but of Christ.