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I completely agree. However, the old covenant was still being practiced until the temple was destroyed.

The purpose of the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem was judgment on Israel for rejecting the Messiah. Rejecting Jesus and asking for a murderer to be set free were what determined their destruction.

From the Greek "oikumene", meaning the inhabited earth. The Gospel was preached to the "inhabited earth" (throughout the Roman Empire). In Romans 1:8, Paul says that the Gospel is being "proclaimed throughout the whole world". In Colossians 1:3-6, Paul says that the Gospel been preached "in...

Jesus conquered sin and death on the Cross. The Old Covenant was obviously still in effect in that sacrifices were still offered in the Temple until its destruction in AD 70. The Cross marked the beginning of the end, but the destruction of the Temple was the final "nail in the coffin" for the...

No, He didn't ! Jesus mentioned only ONE return-His physical one, yet to occur. But He caused the Romans to destroy J & the temple. Please show us FROM SCRIPTURE where He mentions two returns or that He came upon J to destroy it. Actually, you have showed your private interpretation of...

For me, a starting place is defining what we believe the prophecies are about overall. I believe they are restricted to judgment on Jerusalem and the end of the Old Covenant, whereas the popular view is that this refers to a future worldwide. I focus on "time indicators" in the prophecies. We...

The specific things that Jesus said in the Olivet Discourse that came to pass: 1) Destruction of the Temple; 2) False Christs; 3) Wars & Rumors of Wars; 4) His followers handed over to tribulation and killed; 5) Gospel preached throughout the world (i.e. the Roman Empire); 6) Abomination of...

I believe that the majority of Revelation describes (in symbolic terms) the end of the Old Covenant. Revelation is John's version of the Olivet Discourse, where he describes the events that were going to come upon Jerusalem. Having said that, I do agree that there is an aspect of Revelation...

Brother, I have showed you that the tribulation was not worldwide, but was limited to Jerusalem and the surrounding area. This was fulfilled in a 3 1/2 year period, from AD 66-70. I have also showed you that Jesus did come - just not physically. I agree that the words of Jesus Himself are...

Yes, I am familiar with that, thank you. "Caught up" doesn't necessarily mean the same as in getting beamed up like in Star Trek. For example, you can get "caught up" in the excitement of an event. I understand why those who believe in the Rapture hold that view, but I honestly do not believe...

Brother, you and I have been debating Preterism on and off for at least a couple of years. In every one of our discussions, you make the claim that you've proven Preterism is false. If you could prove this view to be false, it would have shut down this debate long ago. All you have ever done...

I don't believe in the Rapture because I don't see it in the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is used to support that view, but I disagree. This passage is not about the Rapture at all. “The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God...

What you posted was "Then you deny 1 Thessalonians 4:17 "...we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...". I do not deny Scripture. I deny your interpretation of that Scripture. To turn this around, I would not say that you deny this passage, but you deny my interpretation of that passage.

I deny the view of the Rapture. The idea of being caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air is a picture of God's Elect being brought into His presence in the Holy of Holies. "Descend" (v. 15) was used to describe the priest's descent from the Temple to announce...

While this was not directed to me, I'd like to spend my 2 cents here. I believe the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 is figurative. Outside of this chapter, there is no mention of a thousand year period. I believe that Satan's power was limited so the Gospel could spread. By "great battle", are...

I don't believe in the Rapture at all. There are two Preterist views. I hold the Partial Preterist view, that all of the Olivet Discourse prophecies and most of Revelation have been fulfilled. Full Preterists believe all Biblical prophecies have been fulfilled. I appreciate how we can...

I've never claimed that Jesus physically returned in AD 70. He "came" in judgment upon Israel. All the prophecies of the Olivet Discourse, as well as most of the Book of Revelation, did come to pass in AD 70. I'm sure you have more than a few objections to this view, and I am happy to address...

Not physically. Jesus "came" in judgment on Jerusalem in the same sense that God "came" in judgment on various nations in the Old Testament. Jesus told His disciples they would see the destruction of the temple; they would hear of wars and rumors of wars; they would be handed over to...

If that were the case, Jesus would have said "that generation" or even "those who see these things take place". The generation that Jesus was speaking to did see the events that He was describing in the Olivet Discourse. Tribulation came upon them. The temple was destroyed - just as He said...

Some people make the argument that He meant "this kind of generation", "the generation then living", or even "this race" in the Olivet Discourse prophecy. That is adding words to what Jesus said, or even changing the meaning of what He said. When we compare this phrase to every other use of...