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The Trinity was on the Cross? Jesus removed His glory, Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion...

Jesus was still GOD on the Cross, He had to be to take the penalty for His creation of sin, He was separated from A Holy Godhead because He became sin. One human death could not satisfy the debt of sin, but God could. A creator suffered the penalty for the creation. You doctrine was prevalent...

I am doing neither, He was 100% God to pay for sin, He was 100% man so we can share in His death. He took sin upon Himself and Did take that penalty and was separated from the God head because of Sin. God is unity yet separable as shown as different persons. The Godhead was not on the...

He was God who took the penalty or you are not saved. Here shows the separation that one who is eternal can be separated from the Holy Father. Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou...

Spiritual death is separation from God and He did suffer this as God, He suffered physical death as man, We do too, spiritual death as a sinful condemned being and physical death as a man.

The event is recorded .We have confused the participants because we are looking back through redemption. It is trying to figure out what caused Titanic to sink from a lifeboat at the scene

no offense, you are preaching to the choir, I believed everything you write, but more know You are only considering the physical . Consider the spiritual and it is more important, Jesus said to physically alive Jews, let the dead bury their dead, He was not joking research the use of dead...

When did we become spiritually dead? Remember , I believe in the pre existance of the soul. So that is my position, We are spiritually dead until we can be spiritually aware as human then can accept or reject accept salvation, We are condemned already, John 3: I believe Rom 8:29 For...

All truth comes from God. But we teach God made us alive to we can understand and be made alive It is not logical

Correct , we were spiritually dead, Made spiritually alive by a relationship with God. We can abide in Him. but Here is your Problem, I have to be spiritually able to understand in order to accept spiritual things like salvation,, so how can have something in order to get the same thing?

They physically exist and are move by the physical, does a rock react to spiritual? a spiritual being is can react to the spiritual , and is the only being ever created who can relate to the physical and spiritual.

How there be a state of being spiritually dead without spiritually death, except to suggest some have never been spiritually alive? Mat 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. The physical alive are called "dead"

Spiritual death is separation from God, or sin, unable to respond to spiritual stimuli. Christ suffered separation from God on the cross when He became sin for us. Because of who He was as God the sin debt was paid. Because of who He wad as man, we can share in the death. There is no more...

who? Jesus said, John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed alljudgment unto the Son: and Jhn 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. Who declares us guilty after Adam's fall?

if both churches teach the same, there is trouble, The conflict does not center around Jesus but others and the methods we ascribe honor to him and the hierarchy of the Catholic church having precedence over Christ There are believers in the Catholic church just as the Baptist but if you do...

no, why do you blane Adam for your sin? You did not exist in Adam because sin is spiritual not physical , Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Ezekial and Romans are reference sinners the same...

The Redeemed sinners right?

We have to consider all evidence shown in all scripture not single out one verse ignoring other and original meanings We error develope doctrine from Translations , especially English

you are correct, this is opposite of Humanism that blames Adam . Does God punish unjustly? no, Does He judge the iniquity of the Father to the Son? Does He charge the sin of the Father to the Son? Romans 5 19 "made " is not create not kathistēmi to set, place, put to set one over...

How is He doing this,? but to be Human as were were made human Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;