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May God's peace and strength be upon Dr Bob in his time of difficulty. May his family as well be encouraged.

Good point. If there was any >TIME< Christians were separated from Christ and ALL must have been for it says Christians were until the time they were brought near by the blood of Christ...so how can one always have been IN HIM and be separated from him at the same time? It certainly could...

Dave my friend please think through on what you're saying. That'd be like saying a law man wants to see people commit crimes so he can have criminals in his jail. And now because his jail is full he can show grace to others and let them off their crimes. :eek:

And it can leave a cloud of doubt, depression and uncertainty over a person their whole lives. I recall a teenager in our Christian High School group many, years ago. This young lady came from a staunch Calvinistic background and one day we had an exercise where everyone was to draw a picture...

No he didn't. But Egypt had 400 years where they were treating unjustly Hebrews they made slaves when God HAD saved Egypt from disaster in the time of Joseph. Not to mention that they slew the Hebrew babies in the time of Moses. God decided to make an example of them for their judgment time had...

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Deuteronomy 30:15-20 Well to start my friend at least you've acknowledged there at least have been some people...

Or is it rather your interpretation of the Bible is mistaken? Paul in the same chapter before your quoted verse states in vs 16, "Men of Israel, and you who fear God listen" Ones who fear God not Jews? Had to mean they weren't totally depraved then right? So they had some revelation which they...

A friend of mines father made claim to have went to Heaven for a few short minutes after he died and the doctor was in the room and had pronounced him dead. He claimed to have gone to Heaven and saw such beautiful things beyond comprehension....absolutely perfect green grass, flowers like he'd...

I'm well aware of that. You missed the point though of my saying this==>Atheists claim God revealing himself through creation isn't proof of his existence. He doesn't jump through hoops to provide further things when what he's provided should be self evident that he does . As one sees the...

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Deuteronomy 30:15-20 Now David please don't come back and say God doesn't give men a choice. You can't get it...

None of us are perfect Dave that's for sure. I heard the tale of a person who claimed there was two perfect people. They and another individual and sometimes they had doubts about them! :) No don't agree my friend. Down below the same scripture and my comments in purple. " For the grace of...

Yes, that's what I meant and I wasn't as clear as I should have been. They must have been attached to remain in him.

Well David maybe some time you'll consider their assumptions as fact. Most of all your Calvinistic beliefs don't out-and-out declare as fact on some of the major things you believe. Where's the words irresistible grace? Where's the out-and-out declaration that OT saints or anyone desiring God...

Don't read anywhere though where he says to the withered up branches they were never in him. Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you...

Nope can't accept that at all. If such were the case you wouldn't have need of John the Baptist with giving necessary revelation that the Messiah or Christ was about to appear. And John the Baptism didn't go into a message which says now look at the physical creation....OK you got that well now...

Sorry David but doesn't this show the DANGERS of Calvinsism? You tried to make a case that Jesus doesn't really care about ALL children therefore it doesn't matter if you offend or hurt some of the others in the group (of children) Maybe you can tell me where I'm wrong in what you're saying.

I respect your right to have an opinion on that. I happen to think posting youtube videos of teachings on message boards does take away true dialogue and becomes more indoctrination. This site can allow whatever they want that's fine. I see no reason to be demeaned because I won't watch them. If...

No offense Katarina but who knows...maybe that's just what I was going to tell you. My Comments Connected To Katharina's Next Statement Not by your putting down a link for a 14 minute video I won't. I watch videos all the time yes ones which challenge my position too but not on a message...

Well Katarina message boards are all about building a case responding back and forth to substantiate claims. To declare no I don't doesn't even allow for rebuttals. Not by your putting down a link for a 14 minute video I won't. I watch videos all the time yes ones which challenge my position...

Well SD before you pride yourself that a slam dunk has been achieved you might want to check that ball. It may be leaking air. :Cool