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Your welcome to disagree however, Proper Exegesis and Hermeneutics bring us to the results Winman listed. You are looking for a proof text such as "Satan is a fallen angel"; we are given multiple pieces of information that allow us to infer this thinking, all of which were listed. The black...

to be fair. Winman has given multiple answers to the connection of Satan - Lucifer - and the devil, also him being a fallen Angel. It reads from our end as just you not accepting the answers you were given. So then we are at a disagree. May I say that your view is not orthodox Christianity...

Curious, robycop what bible version do you use?

Even though it seems you may just dismiss such an answer. Here you are.

I like it. I disagree though that Door knocking is ineffective. If it didnt work, the Mormons and JW's wouldn't be gaining recruits. Plus its easy to map out and know where you have been. Just try and toss out BAPTIST CHURCH as fast as you can! LOL! "Hi Im Jordan from Bethel BAPTIST! IM A...

HisWitness, you never answered my questions. Please just a yes or a no. Do you agree with Trinitarian Theology? Yes or No will suffice Do you agree with the Athanasian Creed? http://www.wretchedradio.com/pdf/Athanasian_Creed.pdf Yes or No is more than plenty. Thanks :)

Looks like english! :1_grouphug:

Why would Michael call upon the Lord to rebuke the devil if he is Jesus... that would make Jesus not Lord. Not to mention the Bible makes many mention of them being separate beings. http://carm.org/michael-archangel-jesus Not sure where Moses is in Jude 9. Do you agree with...

Im confused. Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Sounds like a real entity to me.

I would agree with you on all these things Bro.Greg :). I can be a little harsh towards people who arnt Creationists, (both Christians and atheists). Its the one debate that gets me pretty fired up if im not careful.

My Pastor has a KJV with the reading grade levels on the inside... it listed Genesis at like grade 5... maxing out at like grade 8. I don't know if I agree that its at a 13 level... once you get Thee, thy, thou down... its just english.

Yes and no. Cocaine has a lot of other physiological effects that Caffeine doesn't produce. Furthermore, as I have stated many o' time, you can get drunk on water... do we just not drink water? I would need someone to build quite a strong case against caffeine for me to be convinced.

Just for funzies may i say.... i do love SOTL. :) <3

after reading through all the banter and getting this i had a good giggle.

I think churches and buildings are biblical, same with homes, I mean the disciples went to homes, and the churches got letters written to them etc. However, we are all on "mission", I disagree with the idea, that only some are called to witness. The great comission is for all (I think we would...

I think we agree then lol. I dont think "altered state" is a good enough definition to say something is sinful or not. I dont think caffeine is a problem.. I do think anything in excess can be sinful, or gluttonus (spelling is hard). Also certain drugs like alcohol, we can take their properties...

Again though, drinking lots of water helps with focus. What about when your hungry and get some brain fog and eat and everything gets all better? are we altering states of mind? Furthermore I could take this conversation even deeper, what about those who are clinically depressed and use anti...

I suppose, I dont consider increasing energy and focus an "altered state" or "inebriated"

I use Caffeine as a preworkout before I go to the gym for extra energy and endurance. one scoop is 225mg, I don't feel drunk (it sure would be terrible to have the spins whilst dead lifting or bench pressing haha), just a boost of energy and focus to help me make some gains. Being Grumpy...

Drunkenness from ethanol and High doses of Caffeine are quite different. Caffeine mega doses don't give you the "who hath woe, who hath sorrow". or the not feeling pain, I have never woken up covered in vomit with an empty wallet from drinking lots of coffee. Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with...