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Jon, I can still see in my mind and heart when I was just a kid, Bob Jones Jr. standing in the pulpit with spit flying out of his mouth, holdling that old KJV Bible over his head proclaiming a crucified Christ and the world in need of Him. I miss the old days when the Blood was preached with...

We know from Scripture the Church is no better than its leadership. It's somewhat different here in that I can still see the effort to be separated from the world in music, preaching, and outreach to the lost. The IBF Church I'm in now here near Charlotte is not the same as the one I was...

Not much I can add except that we disagree. That's common ground for us, right Jon?

Some IFB Churches still hold those standards set by BJU for those who serve in assistance during worship service.

One of the most well known schools in IFB ranks was Bob Jones University. For decades they enforced a clean shaven rule that no one under 25 could have facial hair and haircuts were keep to a standard. Over 25 a mustache was allowed but well trimmed to a standard. That is now a thing of...

I'm sure you're aware that you're dealing with hyper-Calvinism. The constant motion of beating your head against a brick wall.

We will have to add it to the list with the sin nature and psa.

I see this new style of music in the Church as comparable to a sermon I heard some years ago called "The New Cart." It concerned the Ark of the Covenant being found abandoned in a field and when David learned of it he wanted to make a great ceremony in moving the Ark to the city. David used "...

Yea, I guess we have a problem. I see the contemporary gospel music as a money market, not worship of God in Spirit and Truth. You see it as you will, and worship as you will, but I'll have no part in it.

I don't like the rock beat. We are a product of changing culture and some of us will not cross those boundaries. All I can say to answer your question is that the rock beat and sound is a turn off to me as far as worship of our Lord. Rock music, that general sound came out about time of my...

Yep, the rock beat! I'm from the old school and that video is not acceptable for me, Jon. I can't worship the Lord in Spirit to that!

I don't know if the early Christians had anything that could be compared to the rock beat we have today that is filling the Churches. What I do know is that I don't like it, and I don't believe for one moment the rock beat is satisfying and acceptable to the Holy Spirit. It's just one of...

He doesn't go as far as the apostle Paul in calling out sin and names before the whole Church. I would say the majority of Churches today will not even point out the sin that could take place in the list you've posted.

Our pastor preaches the Word and if he steps on your toes, oh well, it wasn't intentional. The problem is very few can find their toes stepped on.

Where did I say it was evil? It's separation from the ways of the world, long hair, those cute facial hair designs, etc. It wasn't just Israel that God called out to be a peculiar people. We believers are different in the way we dress, the way we talk, the things we do. If that is not...

No one tells any more jokes that our pastor. But he is very serious and so is the congregation on separation from the world in all forms. Not isolation, but a definite separation. The Church must have a noticeable difference from the world.

Hey @JonC When we say we're IFB we mean it. No deacons or assistants in taking up offerings in Church with a go-tee or any style of partial facial hair.

Yes, they can be used properly, but most often not. That rock beat finds its way into worship, and we ain't gonna tolerate that!

Musical instruments are like a firearm, harmless on their own until man take it in hand.

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