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Brother, this reveals you have yet to grasp our theological perspective on this matter. With all due respect, please at least learn what I'm telling you about this so that you are aware of the system you are rejecting. "The wonder of God's mercy and grace is NOT that He doesn't save...

Whoa! Got to stop you. As I explained before, the law was NEVER EVER EVER intended to be a way of escape. NEVER, not once...ever...never...never...nada... There has only EVER BEEN one way of escape and the Law was simply sent to reveal that truth. How can you possibly refer to salvation by...

Of course unbelief is sin, but even believers can sin...shoot even demons can believe. What's your point? My point is that saving grace comes by faith alone and nothing but man's own unbelief stands between him and entering heaven. He perishes because he refuses to accept the truth so as to...

I noticed that you didn't provide any quotes of mine suggesting that we have the power to save ourselves or that we can do these thing 'on our own.' I wonder why? Maybe because none exist? You are either intentionally misrepresenting my view or very sadly misinformed. I've NEVER once...

I agree...and I hate to say it because I know Calvinists typically don't own this about their system, but wouldn't you say that the triune God is in a much control over the acts of Christ as he is the acts of the anti-Christ under the deterministic model? They may put a few layers of second or...

Sorry, but it sounds like you are changing your former answer. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but earlier you said that would have been able to yield and seek the Holy Spirit's help, but now you seem to be suggesting that you didn't have the 'measure of grace' needed to accomplish that, otherwise...

RIGHT!!! And that is what the law was sent to teach us. It was never intended as a means for us to attain righteousness, thus to point to our inability to attain righteousness through it is fallacious. "The righteous will live by faith."

That is a hard pill to swallow but I can't see how the Calvinist avoids swallowing it...I honestly cannot. It also makes God seem disingenuous at best. Read this for example: 5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of...

The fallacy of this argument is also revealed by simply looking at the ACTUAL purpose of the Law rather than the perceived purpose of the Law from the perspective of Israel. This is revealed by answering some simple questions: 1. Can anyone attain righteousness through keeping the law? 2. Was...

They failed to enter the promised land because of their unbelief, not because they broke rules along the way (Heb. 3). There are law breakers in heaven and hell, so what's the difference? UNBELIEF...the unwillingness to "yield" as you put it before. If we were talking about their failure to...

I actually agree with all of this up to the last line.. This hardening was specifically for ISRAEL, who was already in rebellion... and God was blinding them in that rebellion to accomplish all these things you mentioned. But has Israel (those stumbling, those being hardened, those being sent...

I emboldened two vital points in your response above. Allow me to restated them and see if we are understanding each other: 1. You first conclude about yourself: Failure to yeild to the Spirit can only be attributed to my own inherent weaknesses. So, any time you sin, it is due only to...

So, when Joshua challenged the people with the statement, "Choose you this day who you will serve," was he mistaken? When you choose to serve the flesh/satan/world, isn't that sin?

But, that is not answering the question brother....please hear me out. If you COULD have chosen to yield, which you already said was possible...even above you say, "a conscious decision to yield is necessary." BUT the last time you sinned willingly, you didn't make that choice to yield, but you...

I know I responded to this, but I wanted to add this... Notice that what you state here perfectly illustrates the mistake I've been pointing out to you. You say, "it is your duty to observe the law without sin," which we both agree is impossible, then you rightly point out that is why "we need...

Oh, so when the bible states clearly something like, "Turn to God for healing..." it really means, "You can't turn to God so He will heal you anyway, if your lucky enough to be chosen." If it says, "Humble yourself and you will be exalted," it really means, "You can't humble yourself, so if...

BTW, Biblicist, your respond in #49 was to the wrong post...

I understand your argument, but the fact that Paul's very next sentence is, "Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.' "Therefore I want you to know that God's salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they...

Yes, and through faith in Christ we can attain such perfection (righteousness). See my signature line below at this time...

No one is suggesting they could. :laugh::laugh: Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? God gives the new heart to those who confess (rid themselves of offense). On our own? If you...