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This is well stated. We may disagree on some other points, but this is very good!

1. I don't speak for Winman...he can do that for himself. When I say 'no one' I'm speaking of the majority of non-Calvinistic Baptist scholars... 2. Total inability denies the ability of the gospel to enable a response, so how would I be supporting that doctrine by affirming that? How can...

Really? How does a verse which doesn't even mention the gospel prove that fallen men are unable to respond to the gospel? No one denies we must be drawn, but what are the means by which God draws all men to himself (Jn 12:32)? THE GOSPEL is sent after Jesus is lifted up and that is the...

And I think Jesus, Paul and the the other biblical authors gave good explanations and response to all of your posts. Look at them and learn from what they wrote. :love2: Oh, btw, the good 'dr' Walter still has an active log in if he'd like to join the conversation (in accordance with the...

Yet, somehow God was just not powerful enough to bring us all to believe a like minded theology? Even among Calvinists there are hundreds of theological variants...I guess God just wasn't able make us all believe the same truths? Is that it?

God is infinite, not limited by time, and we know by His revelation what He chooses to do with those who humble themselves, but that doesn't mean He is obligated to do so by something outside His own gracious choice. The father of the prodigal wasn't forced to take his son back in and forgive...

You say this as if we believe that our having free will wasn't God's will. Suppose a father tells his 5 year old daughter to sit down and eat her dinner and she refused. If the father doesn't choose to manually force her to sit down and force feed her, does that mean she is in charge? Does...

Some will never understand that since the coming of Christ, the pouring out of the Spirit at Pentecost, and the commissioning of the church to spread the powerful, gracious message of reconciliation to the world that God doesn't leave us to 'ourselves.'

Clearly...enough said.

1 Cor. 2:14 is probably the most quoted proof text to support the Calvinistic concept of total inability, but does it say what needs to be said in order to support the Calvinist's claims? 9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has...

No one. I couldn't agree more. Of course he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy, but according to scripture who does God give mercy to? Just to Jews, as was a common misconception of those Paul is having to rebuttal? Or does God have mercy on both Jews and Gentiles? If yes, then...

Don't you think the original author's could have added that qualification if they so desired? Couldn't the have simply written, "For whosoever is irresistibly quickened shall call upon the name of the Lord and be saved.” The fact that they could have said that and didn't should reveal...

It is a gift by grace through faith. And salvation is not of works, because (1) believing isn't a work (it merits NOTHING). And even we believe that faith is something he grants us through sending his message of redemption because "faith comes by hearing." The difference is that we don't...

BobRyan, To answer you OP, yes if the doctrine you refer to OSAS is undermined then so is Calvinism, however that doesn't make it right or wrong. I have some questions for you. Do you believe in Regeneration? Do you believe that once we genuinely believe and confess that we are born again...

We both agree that the Lord holds men accountable/responsible. But only one of us believes men actually are accountable/responsible. That is the point. There is NO REASON to believe men that God treats as responsible are not actually response-able. By believing we may have life, not the other...

I've not read one Non-Calvinist on this forum, EVER, (in my recollection) that has denied that God takes the initiative in our salvation. With all due respect, this just appears to be a straw-man to me. Its either intentional misrepresentation OR its that some Calvinists have grown so accustom...

If I could prove beyond all reasonable doubt that you couldn't pick up the phone and call the President, would that also prove that you couldn't answer his call? Because that is what Calvinists do, they take verses which teach that we can't seek Him to prove that we can't respond to Him. Its...

This is an uneducated rebuttal of our system, as we don't believe faith credits or merits our salvation. Asking for forgiveness doesn't merit being forgiven. The Prodigal Son didn't earn or merit the father's reception based on his willingness to return home, that was totally a choice of the...

Only one of his monikers was banned. He is still able to sign on and engage using just one name...as long as he follows the rules that we all agreed to when we signed on to this forum. There is nothing unfair about that. In fact, its actually gracious because both monikers are supposed to be...

The version I quoted was about being 'divisive,' but as stated he was posting under two different names and that is a violation of the posting rules.