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  1. Skandelon

    Response-able??

    What are you talking about? Even in your cut and paste definition above (where you cut and pasted only the parts that suit you), the definition fits mine. One part reads, "past participle stem of respondere "to respond"" What is a response for a corpse? Total Inability teaches that men...
  2. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    He was posting under two different names, which is obviously not allowed.
  3. Skandelon

    Could God impart independency

    Correct...as Tozer said it even more clearly than I could. I have no idea what you mean. I understand the dilemma your proposing. That is why we believe and affirm the mystery of a contra-causal choice, whether it is a choice of God or a choice of one created in His image. The alternative...
  4. Skandelon

    Response-able??

    Are you being serious? 1. How many quotes do you think I could produce from doing a google search that mention determinism? How many of those do you suppose are atheistic? 2. The fallacy called 'guilt by association' attempts to find anyone who might agree with some point of your...
  5. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    This needs to be addressed too: That passage doesn't even come close to suggesting that the light of the gospel appeal inevitably leads to hardening apart from an irresistibly work of regeneration. You read that into that text. Scripture specifically spells out the abilities and even the...
  6. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    Again you read something into the text that simply does not exist. We agree that Israel at this time had GROWN CALLOUSED, they had 'BECOME HARDENED.' You assume that 'becoming hardened' is inevitable to everyone because they are born 'totally hardened.' Because, what is hardening if not...
  7. Skandelon

    Could God impart independency

    We believe free choices are from Him, just like you believe predetermined choices are from him. He created us to be RESPONSE-ABLED. As Tozer put it: "God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his...
  8. Skandelon

    Could God impart independency

    Well that isn't a mystery, but that is not what we were discussing. Of course all thing are of God, including contra-causally free moral agents...at least from our perspective. You seem to presume we don't believe that. I'm not following you. Are you saying that the agent chooses his desire...
  9. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    Actually, we all agree that the nature is fallen too. The issue is what does that fallen condition look like? What is it able or not able to do? Can a fallen man respond to God when He appeals for that fallen man to be reconciled? That is the issue. Calvinism's dogma of Total Inability...
  10. Skandelon

    Why does God get angry with them?

    Zechariah 7:12 "They made their hearts as hard as rock and would not listen to the teachings of the Lord All-Powerful. And they would not hear the words he sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the Lord All-Powerful became very angry." Two questions: 1. Why does it teach that...
  11. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    Here are a few more texts which clearly show that we are not born calloused/hardened (which is what the human condition of "Total Inability" actually is), instead you will notice that this is something everyone is at RISK of BECOMING: Acts 19:8 Then he entered the synagogue and spoke boldly...
  12. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." -Matt. 7:12 "...bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you." -Luke 6:28 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you..." Matt. 5:44
  13. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    I ran into the same problem with Biblicist in his comments about Romans 8:7. I had NO PROBLEM with his exegesis of most of the passage and when I tried to redirect his comments to actually address our real point of attention he relentless accused me of avoiding his arguments. We can't be...
  14. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    For those following along, you will need to decide for yourselves if Israel was born totally hardened and calloused and thus never able to see, hear, understand God's revelation and turn, or if they GREW CALLOUSED or BECAME HARDENED, as the text actually reads. Psalm 17:10 They have become...
  15. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    Titus 3:10: Warn a divisive person once, then a second time; and after that, have nothing more to do with him. Good bye.
  16. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    Have you heard that illustration about the man caught in a flood who kept turning down help from humans and he died and went to heaven and asked God why He didn't save him? And God said, “Son, I sent you a warning. I sent you a car. I sent you a canoe. I sent you a motorboat. I sent you a...
  17. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    Biblicist, I beg you brother to read over your words above and consider how they look to the hundreds of young people seeking for answers to honest questions that have been debated since the beginning of Christianity. I suspect that if CS Lewis, Adam Clarke and AW Tozer were here themselves...
  18. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    You always presume a nefarious motive and that is not being kind. I just forgot to move on to the next verse after showing beyond ALL REASONABLE doubt that mankind is still responsible in the process and I notice you didn't address even one of those verses. Should I presume that you just have...
  19. Skandelon

    Objective consideration of John 12:32

    I personally am fine with the 'all without distinction' approach, after all the gospel is sent to all nationalities without distinction. But the question is do you really believe its the gospel that has 'drawing' power? Can the gospel 'enable' those who hear it to respond? Your view says...
  20. Skandelon

    Double Double Toil and Trouble

    This is the crux of your entire argument because here is where you assert that men are born totally blind, verse 'becoming blind' over time, as the text indicates over and over again. But let's take a look at your proof texts in context: Deut 5:29 states, "If only they had such a heart to fear...
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