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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    But is that an act that must be done to earn salvation? It seems that you are saying "yes". If you do not help the man, you lose your salvation and if you help him, you earn salvation.
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    Are you a Pauper Pastor?

    Unless hubby quits the ministry and goes back to doing computer engineering, it isn't going to happen. But that is OK. God is good and He has shown us how He will care for us even when money is tight. :)
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    Are you a Pauper Pastor?

    We earn 60% of the median income in our community. We are blessed to not be in debt but we have no more savings, our house is in poor condition and needs work and my children are now eligible for free college in NY (thank goodness). But we are blessed in more than finances. It does hurt...
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    Well, first off, you may want to be very careful with the dance you are dancing here because it sounds very much like you are questioning my salvation. So your interpretation of this passage is that it is saying to earn your salvation - to work to earn it. But that is not at all what the...
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    Yet you forget the next part of the verse and the context which is VITAL for understanding this passage. "Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who...
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    I'm sorry but there is no such thing.
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    So have you fed every starving person in the world? If not, you sin and have lost your salvation. But we see Utilyan asked you a very good question based on Scripture. I'd love to see the answer to that question.
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    It is a sin for them and they lose their salvation and go to hell? Man, you put a lot of power in man's hands!
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    No, it is faith which causes good works. I am making a favorite dinner for my husband because I love him. It isn't going to make our marriage valid but I do it because we are married and I love him. It is the same with works in salvation - we do it because we love God, not to earn His love...
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    Unfruitful letter writing campaign?

    Did Paul write letters to cult leaders and false churches - in other words those who are NOT saved? I believe in all of his letters, he addressed the as "brothers".
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    Nope - I've never grumbled at having to help people and I've even gone so far as literally save someone's life after they were stabbed in the neck - and I've taken people into my home, fed the hungry and most importantly, shared the gospel with the needy. However, I don't do this to "keep" my...
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    So if I don't give a homeless man a dollar, I'm at risk of losing my salvation?
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    Does WOTM place people under the mosaic law?

    So basically if a church is not going out on the streets and handing out tracts, they are not involved in evangelism, is that right?
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    I Want to Teach the Word, but Where Do I Go From Here?

    My husband at one time felt a call to the ministry. He had already been in ministry in the past and at that time was a computer engineer but he just felt led to do something that had a bit more eternal value. Well, he spoke to our senior pastor who told him to wait. The time wasn't right. It...
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    Unfruitful letter writing campaign?

    It is definitely breaking one of the Ten Commandments though.
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    I don't know of one church - even churches that do not follow the Bible - who teach such a thing. We obey because we love God - not because it earns us salvation. Our salvation CANNOT be earned - it is a gift. As soon as something is earned, it is no longer a gift. Can you tell me the...
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    "He chose to employ him"....."that person you hired decided to not clean and do his job" That is your answer. Let me ask you a question. Are we hired for salvation or is it a free gift? Let's reword your scenario: An owner of a house decided to bring a young man into his home as his son...
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    Does WOTM place people under the mosaic law?

    Jonathan Edwards - You mean the man who discipled MANY in his own home? The man who maybe street preached but also personally sat down at the table and even housed people in his own home to teach them and help them to grow in the faith?
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    Unfruitful letter writing campaign?

    Wait - what? You're saying that this man is wrong because he actually saw people come to faith in Christ and he should have stayed with speaking to the wind and not had any converts??? Seriously????
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    Every Believer Must Do Good Works and Proclaim the Gospel, Some Are Called to Teach

    If this is true, then our salvation is based on our works - and it is no longer a gift but an earned reward or a wage. That is not Biblical.
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