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  1. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Maybe you could give an example of a scripture passage that needs to be interpreted by an outside source apart from the Bible?
  2. steaver

    Would you stay?

    No need to interpret, just read and study the full counsel God gave us. The Apostles wrote as the Holy Spirit instructed. God gave us teachers and preachers to guide us through the Scriptures, not as interpreters. The Scripture says what it says, it is not difficult. Creeds are from men, some...
  3. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Create a Thread on this Wrath of God topic, it would be a good subject to explore.
  4. steaver

    Would you stay?

    I don't believe God poured out His wrath on Jesus at the cross. I do believe the wrath of God was satisfied (that is the wrath to come for all sinners) for those who believe on the Son of God.
  5. steaver

    Would you stay?

    I do not interpret the Scriptures. Scripture needs no interpreter, Scripture speaks with clarity as to exactly what God wants us to know and how much God wants us to know. Scripture interprets (clarifies) Scripture. Do not go beyond what is written.
  6. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Seriously! You demanding a bible verse as if that would change your mind? Your mind is settled doctrine according to the way the RCC has told you you shall think. Bible verses are meaningless, it is what the RCC says, right? At least be honest about it, admit it.
  7. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Still defending him even after his conviction? Yep, and then Jesus will show you the truth about the RCC traditions.
  8. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Do you believe he just found out about it?
  9. steaver

    Would you stay?

    The Pope himself. He is in charge is he not?
  10. steaver

    Would you stay?

    You believe the true Church covers up the raping of children and allows it to continue? We see the RCC teaches this through their actions to not stop it but rather enable it. Straw man, don't believe I ever said church congregations are sinless. Stay on topic. And my denom is listed in my...
  11. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Exactly! So are these Baptist leaders out of power yet? Are these RCC leaders out of power yet? If not then I have to conclude nobody in those congregations cares.
  12. steaver

    Would you stay?

    So pointing to other bad behavior is your answer? Are those involved in the cover up out of Leadership? If not then members should leave. Are those involved in the cover up in the RCC out of Leadership roles yet? If not, members have two choices, demand they resign, including the Pope, or leave...
  13. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Eh, it's just a minority, no biggie. Here is this sins proper context.....Actually, it is the RCC's entire body of Priest, for they ALL know exactly what goes on among their fellow priest, and they ALL keep their silence, including the Popes throughout the centuries. Even to this day. And you...
  14. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Yep, just another sin to the RCC member. Hey, we are all sinners right? So no biggie. No biggie that the RCC leadership, Pope after Pope, made sure thousands of children remained available for their priest to rape at will. Of course the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, so Christ must be leading...
  15. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Not so. The "scum" spoken of is the Leadership, right to the top, and it remains to this day even though it has been exposed. No, this kind of systematic scum does not exist in the Christian organization I am a part of. In the organization I am a part of there will be individual bad actors creep...
  16. steaver

    Would you stay?

    Sad indeed. I would include any church organization in the OP. So I'm assuming you left due to this, at least I hope you did. So will you stay in the RCC?
  17. steaver

    Would you stay?

    More and more the demonic essence of the RCC is coming to light. Could any sincere Christian remain part of such an church organization which protects and systematically makes it possible for thousands upon thousands of children to be molested by Satan's Leaders? And yet, Catholic members refuse...
  18. steaver

    Soul-Winning

    I am starting this thread here in this forum for two reasons; 1) I was reading about it in a "Baptist Only" thread and I am forbidden to respond there. 2) I believe it is an interesting topic for ALL Christians. [Personal attack edited] My question would be, how do you know? You plant, you...
  19. steaver

    TULIP for Real Life

    I have been debating on these boards for twenty years and it never gets old, I hear something new most every day. You are the first Calvinist I have heard put forth this theory. Most struggle with the fact that Adam had freewill to choose, you have come up with this theory as a way to resolve...
  20. steaver

    TULIP for Real Life

    That is what i thought Calvinist believed. So you would believe that God gave Adam a new heart and that is why Adam was able to believe it was God speaking to him?
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