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  1. steaver

    TULIP for Real Life

    I believe Total Inability stands for one not being able to respond to God. Correct? Was Adam able to respond to God after he sinned?
  2. steaver

    TULIP for Real Life

    I believe all people, even Adam and Eve, needed a Savior before they ever existed. Otherwise, we would not read this.... "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the...
  3. steaver

    TULIP for Real Life

    This TULIP argument either lives or dies in the Garden of Eden. You have to examine Adam and Eve. People believe Adam and Eve were perfect. They were not perfect for only God is perfect. They were vulnerable to temptations and deception, something God is not. God placed before Adam and Eve, life...
  4. steaver

    Double Predestination

    So are you saying God willed that Adam choose death?
  5. steaver

    Double Predestination

    I'm not sure using "desire" changes anything. But let's go with it... de·sire dəˈzī(ə)r/ noun 1. a strong feeling of wanting to have something or wishing for something to happen. So God wished, hoped maybe, Adam would choose life??
  6. steaver

    Double Predestination

    I actually agree. So, answer the question. Was it God's sovereign will that Adam should choose life, or death?
  7. steaver

    Double Predestination

    Except for Adam. He is the exception to Calvinism. Adam was given the choice to live or die as set before him. Adam could have chosen to live and reject the forbidden fruit. Adam is the only one who had the power to override God's sovereign will. Thus, God was not always Sovereign in the way...
  8. steaver

    Questions and their Answers

    How about the full prophetic request..... Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom. Psa 51:7 Jer 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of...
  9. steaver

    New Covenant

    This thread will be closed soon. I find it interesting how little Christians know about the New Covenant and how many just chose to just ignore it. I believe if Christians would actually deal with what God said concerning the New Covenant, that which is specifically spoken to be "New", such as...
  10. steaver

    New Covenant

    All are saved the exact same way brother, as described by Tit 3:5 - "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Why do you think Abraham and the OT believers had to wait in Paradise...
  11. steaver

    New Covenant

    Tit 3:5 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
  12. steaver

    New Covenant

    Its good you see the dilemma for the Calvinist position you hold. You see and understand the Holy Spirit indwelling is regeneration/born of God. You see this did not happen until after the cross of Christ. But you still want to hold to the misconception that those pre-cross were regenerated. It...
  13. steaver

    New Covenant

    Then when you listed being sealed by the Holy Spirit as something Abraham did not receive you misspoke??
  14. steaver

    New Covenant

    Very good! You would agree then that the OT saints were not born again, or in other words as you said, sealed of the Holy Spirit.
  15. steaver

    New Covenant

    Sure we can. Post the scripture that has shaped your views that the Kingdom is being wherever God is. And then we will debate. Oh, and you can go back and read my post to you with all of the scripture I gave and show me why I am wrong on my views.
  16. steaver

    New Covenant

    That's fine brother, but this is a debate board and you will have to answer questions and be specific. I provided a lot of scripture backing up my views and haven't seen you address as to why I am misapplying what I am concluding. Making vague statements doesn't help the debate.
  17. steaver

    New Covenant

    I think we both are thinking "began" as in the sense after Jesus Christ was glorified things changed with regards to the Kingdom. We both understand the Kingdom is eternal, but we both were speaking in terms of what is happening within the Kingdom in the New Covenant. So we both began with a...
  18. steaver

    New Covenant

    No I think you did not make yourself clear from the beginning. I suppose you could argue the Kingdom of Heaven is eternal, but of course it had no human occupants until Jesus Christ paved the way. So we can say it began post cross, which you said so yourself, as far as people entering in. I...
  19. steaver

    New Covenant

    That's not both, that is saying it always existed which then you must have misspoke when you said it began at Pentecost. Now here is the problem with this thinking: "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." (John 3)...
  20. steaver

    New Covenant

    You are not making any sense brother. Either all pre-cross dying in faith entered the Kingdom of Heaven or the Kingdom of Heaven didn't begin until Pentecost. You have to chose one or the other. The OT saints could not have entered into something that did not begin yet until Pentecost.
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